Thanks, Fair - nice to see you here, directly. And good points. Transportation/infrastructure are always low on the issues-totem pole - unless there is a fresh disaster - the I-35 W bridge collapse in Minneapolis was just a little too long ago to serve that purpose.
As I'm sitting here, the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting is about to begin. Thus far, the consensus of the pundits is that Clinton will get something but not 100% of what she wants. Since 100% of what she wants would only bolster her argument, but not cinch it, I think the endgame is at long last in sight. I made another small online donation to the Obama campaign so that it counted for the May deadline - I'm committed - next thing you know, I might actually do something for the campaign - phone calls or something. I have a pretty good telephone manner.
Keep in touch - keep posting!
Saturday, May 31, 2008
Planes, TRAINS, and automobiles
Sen. Obama hit a sweet spot with me this past week:
"Gas prices: Obama still gets it"
(Greater Greater Washington.org)
At a lunch with a Beech Grove, Indiana couple (one of whom works for Amtrak, the other in a local hospital), the candidate had this to say: The irony is with the gas prices what they are, we should be expanding rail service. One of the things I have been talking about for awhile is high speed rail connecting all of these Midwest cities—Indianapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, St. Louis. They are not that far away from each other. Because of how big of a hassle airlines are now, there are a lot of people if they had the choice, it takes you just about as much time if you had high speed rail to go the airport, park, take your shoes off.
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The feds. lack of recognizing the benefits of mass transit in some applications continues to puzzle me. To me, connecting relatively close major cities with high speed passenger rail is a no-brainer - - what are we waiting for? I guess I continue to expect too much (anything, really) from the Bush administration.
A big day in D.C. today for the Dems...
"Gas prices: Obama still gets it"
(Greater Greater Washington.org)
At a lunch with a Beech Grove, Indiana couple (one of whom works for Amtrak, the other in a local hospital), the candidate had this to say: The irony is with the gas prices what they are, we should be expanding rail service. One of the things I have been talking about for awhile is high speed rail connecting all of these Midwest cities—Indianapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, St. Louis. They are not that far away from each other. Because of how big of a hassle airlines are now, there are a lot of people if they had the choice, it takes you just about as much time if you had high speed rail to go the airport, park, take your shoes off.
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The feds. lack of recognizing the benefits of mass transit in some applications continues to puzzle me. To me, connecting relatively close major cities with high speed passenger rail is a no-brainer - - what are we waiting for? I guess I continue to expect too much (anything, really) from the Bush administration.
A big day in D.C. today for the Dems...
Monday, May 26, 2008
Adding Insult to Injury
Not content to let her quasi-apology rest and allow the matter to fade away, the Clinton camp now BLAMES - - - wait for it - - - the OBAMA CAMP for fanning the flames of controvery. For reading things into to her remarks that are unthinkable. Certainly, the top of the campaign - Obama/Axelrod - are content to take her at her word. But supporters are not, and some are pointing others to Keith Olbermann's excellent "special comment" from last Friday.
Hopefully the whole sorry episode proves just how unfit for the presidency she is - not just to us, but to the wimpy superdelegates that remain "uncommitted." And all this johnny-come-lately blame sexism thing. Hey - I'm a middle-aged white woman who does not hate my gender - I just have a very strong dislike to Hillary as a person. Her lies, her deceitfulness, her spin-machine, her willingness to do anything to win, her selfishness - men and women pursuing power have shared in these traits equally in the past, perhaps the women just not as often. Thanks, Hillary, for proving that women, in that pursuit of power, can be just as nasty and underhanded as the men.
Hopefully the whole sorry episode proves just how unfit for the presidency she is - not just to us, but to the wimpy superdelegates that remain "uncommitted." And all this johnny-come-lately blame sexism thing. Hey - I'm a middle-aged white woman who does not hate my gender - I just have a very strong dislike to Hillary as a person. Her lies, her deceitfulness, her spin-machine, her willingness to do anything to win, her selfishness - men and women pursuing power have shared in these traits equally in the past, perhaps the women just not as often. Thanks, Hillary, for proving that women, in that pursuit of power, can be just as nasty and underhanded as the men.
Saturday, May 24, 2008
Outrage!
Hillary Clinton says, oh yeah, my husband didn't have the nomination cinched until June, and we all remember that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June . . . her apologists say it was just an inartful reference to the primary campaign lasting so long but it has lasted long in the past. Bull! What is really on her mind is that Obama would experience a catastrophic event - like being shot - so she wants to be waiting in the wings when that happens! The experts all say that if that is her true intent, it would still work even if she suspended her campaign. But she won't -she is utterly classless, she is trashing any legacy the Clintons have and - do you want me to tell you how I really feel? ;->
Friday, May 23, 2008
May 20 - May 23 exchanges
Yes. I was a republican then pulling for George Bush (those whiney Dems. It's not my fault voters couldn't understand a butterfly ballot). My first voting experience (absentee, registered in person at an SOS branch for that reason) was on a punch card ballot. Fresh out of Macomb County, of course. I think it was about one month in to Bush's first term that I realized the mistake I had made. Oh well, young and stupid. At least Mich. went for Gore.
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Do you really remember the recount? You would only have been 19 or 20. David Boies, who argued Gore's side before the Supreme Court, made quite an impression on me.
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
Ha, I didn't hear about her comment. Too funny. Interesting that the hair color was her main issue - - must have been a joke. Hollywood can turn anyone in to anything (change gender, race, height... let alone hair color!).
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Unfortunately, no HBO. I've heard great things about the movie - the Katherine Harris role being played by Laura Dern? I understand that Ms. Harris's comment was - How can she play me? She's a blond!
Must be a joke, or . . . . maybe not ;->
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
I'm sure the media will turn the DMC rules committee meeting in to a major primary function. Similar to how the media allowed Florida's then-Secretary of State Catharine Harris in 2000 to turn one of the run-of-the-mill vote tallying actions for one of the Miami area counties in to a board room style proclamation.
Speaking of Ms. Harris... do you have HBO? I have my Comcast DVR set to record the Recount movie. I've seen many preview commercials on CNN.
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
I'm not trying to show you up or anything - my knowledge is pretty shallow in some areas ;->
I wonder how the 24 hour news stations will cover the DNC rules committee meeting on May 31st? I'm sure they WILL cover it - especially with all the busloads of Clinton-fanatics - but I don't ever recall national coverage of such a meeting. It will be like waiting for the Supreme Court Decision in Bush v. Gore back in 2000 - remember that? Them thar were some excitin' times (Have you noticed when Clinton slips into "southern dialect" sometimes when she is campaigning down south?)
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
Ha-ha :) How careless of me. I did an Internet search on past presidents and didn't look any more forward than Reagan! I thought I would have known that about him. There I go assuming again.
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Reagan - He was divorced from Jane Wyman, an actress you probably don't remember (ever see Falconcrest - she starred on that in the '80s, I think - it would have to be reruns for you, I realize).
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
That would make McCain the first elected President with a past divorce, if I am thinking correctly. Not that I care (because I don't - many in my family are divorced), but it would be interesting to me that a Republican from the so-called values party would carry that claim.
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Just twice -
Carol - 1965 - 1980
Cindy - 1980 to present (but his relationship with her began in 1979
I heard a clarification of McCain's position - A legal agreement could be entered into. This is more like a generic legal agreement, not a socially and civil-law recognized civil union, favored by Obama and (I think) Clinton.
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
I just read how Ellen DeGenreis asked John McCain to walk down her aisle at her wedding. He was noting how he agreed that gays should be allowed to have some sort of recognized relationship for insurance/legal purposes but that he opposes same-sex marriage. He must have turned bright red.
How many times has McCain been married? (He is divorced, if I recall correctly.)
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
This week's Daily/Colbert shows are all reruns from the week that started May 5. So I know the clips you mean. You probably don't watch Chris that much - he really was having fun with Terry, because Terry kept shouting, You say it's over, You want it over, and Chris kept saying, Not me! I want it to go on and on to the convention!
Did you catch the R. Kelley impersonator/Kwame Daily Show piece? That re-ran this week.
Okay - I will try to be charitable toward Hillary, even though she doesn't deserve it. I've been reading a lot of the commentary at www.washingtonpost.com . Hillary is in that feminist pioneer mode, of the generation that always needed to push, push, push, be better, better, better - just to equal or slightly exceed the men in perceived performance. So she just can't stop pushing, campaigning, hearing back from those adoring supporters, You Go Girl! Michigan/Florida is a ridiculous path for her to try to take, but it is the only one she has left!
Oh - when, when, when will I be able to have my celebratory dinner! ;->
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
The Matthews/McAuliffe exchange to which I was referring was this week (saw clips on last night's Daily Show); they were definitely not yucking it up. If you still TiVo the Daily Show, you'll see it this evening. (Was it on Colbert???)
I now believe that waiting until June 3 for the superdelegates, waiting one more day even, will cause damage to the party. For her to claim civil rights issues in Fla. or Mich. is ridiculous. If she would exit the race at this moment the Dem. party would probably seat the delegations anyway. Seating the delegations once Obama is the nominee keeps the republicans from being able to run ads in the two states exclaiming "Democrats don't care about your voice..." or similar (another thing I worried about - in a tight race, every issue matters).
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
You know - there was a lot of speculation - is, continues to be - as to why Hillary is doing what she's doing. Why not get out gracefully, in a classy manner. Well - I guess I should have known better - class act from a Clinton? That's an oxymoron! Perhaps Chelsea could be classy, but mom and pop are way over the line as to knowing how to do anything but go after what is best for them! It's "back" to, Party be damned! I now think, it's always been this way for them.
Have you heard about the Murtha letter? A group of House Reps saying that the superdelegates need to step up as soon as the primaries are over (June 3rd) and declare their allegiance. But I'm now thinking that these remaining undeclared superdelegates are just afraid of the classless but powerful Clintons. Gutless wonders!
I'm *ecstatic* you have finally gotten off the fence with respect to Hillary - if I read you right. Yeah, she's going to have a bus cavalcade go to the May 31 DNC Rules Committee meeting to "protest" the "civil rights" of Michigan and Florida primary votes being disallowed in any way. I don't know how to write this sarcastically enough: CLASS-say!
I watch MSNBC all the time, but more Countdown than Hardball. I don't think I saw the particular exchange you mention - last I saw, Chris Matthews and Terry McAuliffe were yucking it up over the race going on and on and on - to the convention! Terry would like that for obvious reasons, while Chris would like it for the story-telling possibilities.
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
I've lost my ability to tolerate the continued push by Hillary Clinton. I was fine with her campaign as recently as this week as she seemed to be getting the Dems. free media time while bashing McCain and Bush - which was great. I also read a few columns how her continued campaign was making Obama a stronger candidate by seasoning him prior to November. It appeared as if she was simply continuing on to allow all votes to count - or whatever her statement was - because she "doesn't give up on those who don't give up on her" or some such thing.
To head for Florida and, unexpected to me, claim discrimination, an attack on voting rights, and other such ridiculous things is now going to do damage. I hope the superdelegates see this and fall en mass in to the Obama column today or ASAP.
I don't get it. She could have ended her campaign with class, on a high note, and in a way that probably gave her some power post-campaign suspension. She could have also forced Obama, through the party, to do fundraising work to help with her debt.
Did you see the Terry McAuliffe and Chris Matthews exchanges on MSNBC? I only got to see the clips but it was pretty nasty.
You asked yesterday what we will write about after the primary. I think we'll have plenty to write about after the primary. The republicans seem to provide good discussion and who can ignore the ongoing text message scandal in Detroit :) I hope the Obama team or the national party uses an ad that morphs McCain's face in to Bush (similar to the DeVos to Bush commercial used by the Granholm campaign. I loved that spot!).
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
You know, once Obama has the nom sewn up, what shall we post about?
Did you get the Supreme Court idea on your own? There's a very good analysis of this at the www.washingtonpost.com today.
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
Hillary as a Supreme Court justice would probably bring more attention to the court ... the most attention in history. She would be the most media-friendly justice to date, guarantee it.
Ahhhh, Nip-n-Sip. There are no such places out here.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
I agree - the current lone female on the high court could use some girl talk - ha! Can you imagine?
For a long time we have talked about going back to the Common Grill in Chelsea, so that's my first choice. There's always Red Lobster . . . T. thought: Nip n' Sip (now I've got your mouth watering, don't I) but sitting in the car, even when the food is so good, wasn't exactly what I had in mind.
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
I would love to see someone drive Scalia and Thomas crazy and that would seem to be the perfect role for Ms. Rodham-Clinton :) I'm sure Justice Bader-Ginsburg would like the company.
It may drive tons of conservatives to the polls at the 2012 Presidential election, but still...
Do you and T. have a restaurant selected for the celebratory dinner? I have a feeling it will be sooner than the June 3 PR primary.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
Agreed! I heard that one for the first time this morning. I genuinely think that would be a great spot for her! Wouldn't she drive Scalia and Thomas crazy?
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
Or, Hillary wants a spot on the U.S. Supreme Court. Someone is bound to retire in the next four and a half years.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
Yes - past 11pm, which is late for me. And then I woke up at 4am and started watching again. I'm really pretty tired . . .
Obama did well enough - below is my post to the blog (The Long Hello . . .). I hadn't following the Repubs - that is SO funny about Ron Paul - such an earnest little guy . . .
No celebratory dinner plans yet! re Obama :(
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
I was up late watching the results - you? I don't know why I stayed up so late as the results were for the most part what I expected (I thought Obama would win OR by a larger percentage than he did.
Ron Paul on the R ticket in these western/mountain "Romney" states seems to be giving McCain fits. Paul was getting 20 or so percentage points - keeping McCain's votes to about 80% or less.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
This is from First Read, the polictical blog at MSNBC.MSN.COM: This is PERFECT!
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---Canadian said "You know what I do not understand but would appreciate someone explaining this to me –Sen. Clinton wins in West Virginia by 41% (final total = 67% Clinton and 26% Obama) YET ---the very next day the media is calling for her to step down. WHY?------------------
I'll try using an analogy you might understand, based on your name. Let's say it's the NHL playoffs and Montreal just beat Ottowa 4 games to 0 in a best of 7 series. Yet Ottowa insists on playing out all the remaining games. They manage to win the meaningless game 5 by a score of 5-1 and hold it up as proof that the series isn't over yet. Mathematically, that's the significance of Clinton's win in West Virginia.
David, Charlotte, NC (Sent Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:05 AM)
[end quote]
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
Yes, but the General Campaign has not even begun yet. Just wait till we have not only Obama, but John Edwards and both Clintons campaigning here!
What do you think about the sad news for Sen. Ted Kennedy - a malignant brain tumor . . .
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
I was checking out the Pollster.com website. In both the McCain-v-Obama and McCain-v-Clinton scenarios, Michigan turns red in November. Boo.
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
Once Obama is definitely the "presumptive" nominee, T. and I are going out to eat to celebrate - maybe to the Common Grill, maybe somewhere closer. I sure hope I don't have to wait much into June - I guess it's all up to Hillary - and a few superdelegates . . .
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
No, I hadn't - good catch! Lots of stuff to analyze there -
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
Have you been to www.pollster.com ? Interesting site.
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
Ms. Ferraro was annoying as Hell! (I think I can say that on a blog.) Yes, you would definitely not be alone in calling her racist - but really, she is just way past her prime.
Dates - May 31 - the DNC Rules Committee - which I heard is heavily-Clinton-influenced - meets to discuss how to seat Michigan and Florida.
June 1 - Puerto Rico
June 3 - Montana and North Dakota
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
You must have been up early to catch Ms. Ferraro on Today. She is interesting. If she thinks Obama is sexist, can I call her a tad racist?
Hillary will run through Montana and North Dakota - Puerto Rico too? I think June 3 is the last of the primaries.
- - Fair, May 20 ,2008
I think it will be extremely interesting, once (WHEN????) Hillary is out, to read the in-depth, investigative reporting on what was happening inside the campaign, what were they thinking, what were they trying to achieve, did they realistically think they could float all these different metrics and somehow convince enough superdelegates to see things their way? I'm sure it will all come out - hopefully, sooner rather than later. I REALLY hope that it doesn't come out as part of a post mortem on why Obama lost!
I think Obama would help her with the money - there are a bunch of convoluted rules about it, how it can be shifted over to her Senate campaign and stuff - I don't think they are that motivated by financial issues - in my opinion, it is all about their story - the Comeback Kids! - don't tell us we are done! We're the Clintons! Don't ever count us out!
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
I don't think the blog is a chore - I still think it is neat how we (mostly you) put that together. I just feel I haven't had any major thoughts to contribute - only regurgitated information heard on the news/read online. Tonight should be interesting - to see the Clinton campaign's next steps. I don't know how they can stay in beyond tonight. Can Hillary win in Montana and North Dakota (can any democrat win in those states)? If she is staying in just to "give everyone a chance," including in Montana and ND, she should just say so and allow Obama to focus on November - - with or without Hillary on the ticket.
I still am wondering if all of her talk of staying in until the end is about fundraising; trying to make up as much of the debt as possible before suspending her campaign. Perhaps Obama declined to help her.
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
Saw your post - great! Is the blog still sort of fun? Is it becoming a chore? Just imagine - if we had a blog that was really in demand, with pageviews up the wazoo, we would feel pressure to be updating it around the clock!
Yes - I read your post this morning, and posted my own - below. You will probably think I am being mean about Hillary - but think - if it were Bill running, would you think so?
Geraldine Ferraro was at it again on the Today show this morning. She just can't let go of her Obama-bashing. She was supposed to be on to discuss Hillary's impact as first viable women candidate - but she couldn't say two words on topic without bringing it back to how sexist Obama is, blah blah blah.
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Do you really remember the recount? You would only have been 19 or 20. David Boies, who argued Gore's side before the Supreme Court, made quite an impression on me.
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
Ha, I didn't hear about her comment. Too funny. Interesting that the hair color was her main issue - - must have been a joke. Hollywood can turn anyone in to anything (change gender, race, height... let alone hair color!).
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Unfortunately, no HBO. I've heard great things about the movie - the Katherine Harris role being played by Laura Dern? I understand that Ms. Harris's comment was - How can she play me? She's a blond!
Must be a joke, or . . . . maybe not ;->
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
I'm sure the media will turn the DMC rules committee meeting in to a major primary function. Similar to how the media allowed Florida's then-Secretary of State Catharine Harris in 2000 to turn one of the run-of-the-mill vote tallying actions for one of the Miami area counties in to a board room style proclamation.
Speaking of Ms. Harris... do you have HBO? I have my Comcast DVR set to record the Recount movie. I've seen many preview commercials on CNN.
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
I'm not trying to show you up or anything - my knowledge is pretty shallow in some areas ;->
I wonder how the 24 hour news stations will cover the DNC rules committee meeting on May 31st? I'm sure they WILL cover it - especially with all the busloads of Clinton-fanatics - but I don't ever recall national coverage of such a meeting. It will be like waiting for the Supreme Court Decision in Bush v. Gore back in 2000 - remember that? Them thar were some excitin' times (Have you noticed when Clinton slips into "southern dialect" sometimes when she is campaigning down south?)
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
Ha-ha :) How careless of me. I did an Internet search on past presidents and didn't look any more forward than Reagan! I thought I would have known that about him. There I go assuming again.
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Reagan - He was divorced from Jane Wyman, an actress you probably don't remember (ever see Falconcrest - she starred on that in the '80s, I think - it would have to be reruns for you, I realize).
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
That would make McCain the first elected President with a past divorce, if I am thinking correctly. Not that I care (because I don't - many in my family are divorced), but it would be interesting to me that a Republican from the so-called values party would carry that claim.
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
Just twice -
Carol - 1965 - 1980
Cindy - 1980 to present (but his relationship with her began in 1979
I heard a clarification of McCain's position - A legal agreement could be entered into. This is more like a generic legal agreement, not a socially and civil-law recognized civil union, favored by Obama and (I think) Clinton.
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
I just read how Ellen DeGenreis asked John McCain to walk down her aisle at her wedding. He was noting how he agreed that gays should be allowed to have some sort of recognized relationship for insurance/legal purposes but that he opposes same-sex marriage. He must have turned bright red.
How many times has McCain been married? (He is divorced, if I recall correctly.)
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
This week's Daily/Colbert shows are all reruns from the week that started May 5. So I know the clips you mean. You probably don't watch Chris that much - he really was having fun with Terry, because Terry kept shouting, You say it's over, You want it over, and Chris kept saying, Not me! I want it to go on and on to the convention!
Did you catch the R. Kelley impersonator/Kwame Daily Show piece? That re-ran this week.
Okay - I will try to be charitable toward Hillary, even though she doesn't deserve it. I've been reading a lot of the commentary at www.washingtonpost.com . Hillary is in that feminist pioneer mode, of the generation that always needed to push, push, push, be better, better, better - just to equal or slightly exceed the men in perceived performance. So she just can't stop pushing, campaigning, hearing back from those adoring supporters, You Go Girl! Michigan/Florida is a ridiculous path for her to try to take, but it is the only one she has left!
Oh - when, when, when will I be able to have my celebratory dinner! ;->
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
The Matthews/McAuliffe exchange to which I was referring was this week (saw clips on last night's Daily Show); they were definitely not yucking it up. If you still TiVo the Daily Show, you'll see it this evening. (Was it on Colbert???)
I now believe that waiting until June 3 for the superdelegates, waiting one more day even, will cause damage to the party. For her to claim civil rights issues in Fla. or Mich. is ridiculous. If she would exit the race at this moment the Dem. party would probably seat the delegations anyway. Seating the delegations once Obama is the nominee keeps the republicans from being able to run ads in the two states exclaiming "Democrats don't care about your voice..." or similar (another thing I worried about - in a tight race, every issue matters).
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
You know - there was a lot of speculation - is, continues to be - as to why Hillary is doing what she's doing. Why not get out gracefully, in a classy manner. Well - I guess I should have known better - class act from a Clinton? That's an oxymoron! Perhaps Chelsea could be classy, but mom and pop are way over the line as to knowing how to do anything but go after what is best for them! It's "back" to, Party be damned! I now think, it's always been this way for them.
Have you heard about the Murtha letter? A group of House Reps saying that the superdelegates need to step up as soon as the primaries are over (June 3rd) and declare their allegiance. But I'm now thinking that these remaining undeclared superdelegates are just afraid of the classless but powerful Clintons. Gutless wonders!
I'm *ecstatic* you have finally gotten off the fence with respect to Hillary - if I read you right. Yeah, she's going to have a bus cavalcade go to the May 31 DNC Rules Committee meeting to "protest" the "civil rights" of Michigan and Florida primary votes being disallowed in any way. I don't know how to write this sarcastically enough: CLASS-say!
I watch MSNBC all the time, but more Countdown than Hardball. I don't think I saw the particular exchange you mention - last I saw, Chris Matthews and Terry McAuliffe were yucking it up over the race going on and on and on - to the convention! Terry would like that for obvious reasons, while Chris would like it for the story-telling possibilities.
- - Ing, May 23, 2008
I've lost my ability to tolerate the continued push by Hillary Clinton. I was fine with her campaign as recently as this week as she seemed to be getting the Dems. free media time while bashing McCain and Bush - which was great. I also read a few columns how her continued campaign was making Obama a stronger candidate by seasoning him prior to November. It appeared as if she was simply continuing on to allow all votes to count - or whatever her statement was - because she "doesn't give up on those who don't give up on her" or some such thing.
To head for Florida and, unexpected to me, claim discrimination, an attack on voting rights, and other such ridiculous things is now going to do damage. I hope the superdelegates see this and fall en mass in to the Obama column today or ASAP.
I don't get it. She could have ended her campaign with class, on a high note, and in a way that probably gave her some power post-campaign suspension. She could have also forced Obama, through the party, to do fundraising work to help with her debt.
Did you see the Terry McAuliffe and Chris Matthews exchanges on MSNBC? I only got to see the clips but it was pretty nasty.
You asked yesterday what we will write about after the primary. I think we'll have plenty to write about after the primary. The republicans seem to provide good discussion and who can ignore the ongoing text message scandal in Detroit :) I hope the Obama team or the national party uses an ad that morphs McCain's face in to Bush (similar to the DeVos to Bush commercial used by the Granholm campaign. I loved that spot!).
- - Fair, May 23, 2008
You know, once Obama has the nom sewn up, what shall we post about?
Did you get the Supreme Court idea on your own? There's a very good analysis of this at the www.washingtonpost.com today.
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
Hillary as a Supreme Court justice would probably bring more attention to the court ... the most attention in history. She would be the most media-friendly justice to date, guarantee it.
Ahhhh, Nip-n-Sip. There are no such places out here.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
I agree - the current lone female on the high court could use some girl talk - ha! Can you imagine?
For a long time we have talked about going back to the Common Grill in Chelsea, so that's my first choice. There's always Red Lobster . . . T. thought: Nip n' Sip (now I've got your mouth watering, don't I) but sitting in the car, even when the food is so good, wasn't exactly what I had in mind.
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
I would love to see someone drive Scalia and Thomas crazy and that would seem to be the perfect role for Ms. Rodham-Clinton :) I'm sure Justice Bader-Ginsburg would like the company.
It may drive tons of conservatives to the polls at the 2012 Presidential election, but still...
Do you and T. have a restaurant selected for the celebratory dinner? I have a feeling it will be sooner than the June 3 PR primary.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
Agreed! I heard that one for the first time this morning. I genuinely think that would be a great spot for her! Wouldn't she drive Scalia and Thomas crazy?
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
Or, Hillary wants a spot on the U.S. Supreme Court. Someone is bound to retire in the next four and a half years.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
Yes - past 11pm, which is late for me. And then I woke up at 4am and started watching again. I'm really pretty tired . . .
Obama did well enough - below is my post to the blog (The Long Hello . . .). I hadn't following the Repubs - that is SO funny about Ron Paul - such an earnest little guy . . .
No celebratory dinner plans yet! re Obama :(
- - Ing, May 21, 2008
I was up late watching the results - you? I don't know why I stayed up so late as the results were for the most part what I expected (I thought Obama would win OR by a larger percentage than he did.
Ron Paul on the R ticket in these western/mountain "Romney" states seems to be giving McCain fits. Paul was getting 20 or so percentage points - keeping McCain's votes to about 80% or less.
- - Fair, May 21, 2008
This is from First Read, the polictical blog at MSNBC.MSN.COM: This is PERFECT!
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---Canadian said "You know what I do not understand but would appreciate someone explaining this to me –Sen. Clinton wins in West Virginia by 41% (final total = 67% Clinton and 26% Obama) YET ---the very next day the media is calling for her to step down. WHY?------------------
I'll try using an analogy you might understand, based on your name. Let's say it's the NHL playoffs and Montreal just beat Ottowa 4 games to 0 in a best of 7 series. Yet Ottowa insists on playing out all the remaining games. They manage to win the meaningless game 5 by a score of 5-1 and hold it up as proof that the series isn't over yet. Mathematically, that's the significance of Clinton's win in West Virginia.
David, Charlotte, NC (Sent Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:05 AM)
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- - Ing, May 20, 2008
Yes, but the General Campaign has not even begun yet. Just wait till we have not only Obama, but John Edwards and both Clintons campaigning here!
What do you think about the sad news for Sen. Ted Kennedy - a malignant brain tumor . . .
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
I was checking out the Pollster.com website. In both the McCain-v-Obama and McCain-v-Clinton scenarios, Michigan turns red in November. Boo.
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
Once Obama is definitely the "presumptive" nominee, T. and I are going out to eat to celebrate - maybe to the Common Grill, maybe somewhere closer. I sure hope I don't have to wait much into June - I guess it's all up to Hillary - and a few superdelegates . . .
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
No, I hadn't - good catch! Lots of stuff to analyze there -
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
Have you been to www.pollster.com ? Interesting site.
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
Ms. Ferraro was annoying as Hell! (I think I can say that on a blog.) Yes, you would definitely not be alone in calling her racist - but really, she is just way past her prime.
Dates - May 31 - the DNC Rules Committee - which I heard is heavily-Clinton-influenced - meets to discuss how to seat Michigan and Florida.
June 1 - Puerto Rico
June 3 - Montana and North Dakota
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
You must have been up early to catch Ms. Ferraro on Today. She is interesting. If she thinks Obama is sexist, can I call her a tad racist?
Hillary will run through Montana and North Dakota - Puerto Rico too? I think June 3 is the last of the primaries.
- - Fair, May 20 ,2008
I think it will be extremely interesting, once (WHEN????) Hillary is out, to read the in-depth, investigative reporting on what was happening inside the campaign, what were they thinking, what were they trying to achieve, did they realistically think they could float all these different metrics and somehow convince enough superdelegates to see things their way? I'm sure it will all come out - hopefully, sooner rather than later. I REALLY hope that it doesn't come out as part of a post mortem on why Obama lost!
I think Obama would help her with the money - there are a bunch of convoluted rules about it, how it can be shifted over to her Senate campaign and stuff - I don't think they are that motivated by financial issues - in my opinion, it is all about their story - the Comeback Kids! - don't tell us we are done! We're the Clintons! Don't ever count us out!
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
I don't think the blog is a chore - I still think it is neat how we (mostly you) put that together. I just feel I haven't had any major thoughts to contribute - only regurgitated information heard on the news/read online. Tonight should be interesting - to see the Clinton campaign's next steps. I don't know how they can stay in beyond tonight. Can Hillary win in Montana and North Dakota (can any democrat win in those states)? If she is staying in just to "give everyone a chance," including in Montana and ND, she should just say so and allow Obama to focus on November - - with or without Hillary on the ticket.
I still am wondering if all of her talk of staying in until the end is about fundraising; trying to make up as much of the debt as possible before suspending her campaign. Perhaps Obama declined to help her.
- - Fair, May 20, 2008
Saw your post - great! Is the blog still sort of fun? Is it becoming a chore? Just imagine - if we had a blog that was really in demand, with pageviews up the wazoo, we would feel pressure to be updating it around the clock!
Yes - I read your post this morning, and posted my own - below. You will probably think I am being mean about Hillary - but think - if it were Bill running, would you think so?
Geraldine Ferraro was at it again on the Today show this morning. She just can't let go of her Obama-bashing. She was supposed to be on to discuss Hillary's impact as first viable women candidate - but she couldn't say two words on topic without bringing it back to how sexist Obama is, blah blah blah.
- - Ing, May 20, 2008
Thursday, May 22, 2008
Michigan Primary Voters for Obama - Unite!
Now Hillary is touting the upcoming HBO movie, Recount, about the Florida recount in 2000, as the relevant example for the current primary contest. We must count the popular vote in Michigan and Florida, she screams!
I hope that all Michigan Primary Voters for Obama will unite and raise their voices in protest. Okay, I voted for Romney in the Republican side of the primary - it was sort of like Operation Chaos in Indiana - Rush stole the idea from DailyKos evidently - at the time, it seemed that voting for Romney was the best way to keep the Republican race in turmoil. T. voted for "uncommitted" since Obama had removed his name from the ballot in solidarity with DNC rules about the priority of New Hampshire and Iowa. Hey, Hillary, we didn't vote for you, but you want to disenfranchise us, you don't want our votes counted - we would have both voted for Obama had he been on the ballot. And how about all those who didn't vote at all because every media outlet said the Democratic primary would not count.
Hillary - do NOT count only those votes cast for you on January 15 in Michigan and then go on to pretend that you are in favor of counting EVERY vote and every vote COUNTING. Stay with the rules you and everyone else agreed with at the time - better that Michigan not count at all for the primary process than the distorted, lopsided way of counting the vote that would only benefit YOU!
I hope that all Michigan Primary Voters for Obama will unite and raise their voices in protest. Okay, I voted for Romney in the Republican side of the primary - it was sort of like Operation Chaos in Indiana - Rush stole the idea from DailyKos evidently - at the time, it seemed that voting for Romney was the best way to keep the Republican race in turmoil. T. voted for "uncommitted" since Obama had removed his name from the ballot in solidarity with DNC rules about the priority of New Hampshire and Iowa. Hey, Hillary, we didn't vote for you, but you want to disenfranchise us, you don't want our votes counted - we would have both voted for Obama had he been on the ballot. And how about all those who didn't vote at all because every media outlet said the Democratic primary would not count.
Hillary - do NOT count only those votes cast for you on January 15 in Michigan and then go on to pretend that you are in favor of counting EVERY vote and every vote COUNTING. Stay with the rules you and everyone else agreed with at the time - better that Michigan not count at all for the primary process than the distorted, lopsided way of counting the vote that would only benefit YOU!
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
The Long Hello . . .
. . . to the presumptive nominee, Barack Obama. Yes, Hillary beat him almost as badly in KY as she did in West VA, while he had a decent win in Oregon, and reached his May 20 goal - the majority of pledged or elected delegates in the entire process. According to those who know, this is the metric the Obama campaign has strategized for all along - because those are the rules, man! Delegates, delegates, delegates. That's why they made their time allocation decisions and skipped or almost entirely skipped in-person campaigning in West VA and KY, that's why they conceded them to Hillary - they knew what numbers they needed and where those numbers would come from. They're taking a lot of heat from the pundits over this - Obama SHOULD have done personal campaigning in the Appalachian states - at least he should have done something to make the gap between he and Hillary smaller.
At any rate, Hillary vows to go on. Why? She has almost no chance at winning the nomination, but wants to rack up as many delegates and popular vote count as possible in the remaining contests. Why? For leverage - to get something she wants, at or before the convention in Denver. Maybe the veep spot - maybe a pledge from Obama for 100% universal health care (his proposed plan is not quite 100%) - who knows what? But you can be sure that this most political of couples will be after something!
At any rate, Hillary vows to go on. Why? She has almost no chance at winning the nomination, but wants to rack up as many delegates and popular vote count as possible in the remaining contests. Why? For leverage - to get something she wants, at or before the convention in Denver. Maybe the veep spot - maybe a pledge from Obama for 100% universal health care (his proposed plan is not quite 100%) - who knows what? But you can be sure that this most political of couples will be after something!
Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Changing the rules at the endgame
Sources say that no matter what the private musings within the Clinton campaign, there are two very important people who want to stay at it till the very end: Hill and Bill. Their rationale: delegates already elected and counted? Who cares? Their new rules - what happened in the beginning of the game shouldn't count - only who wins certain contests at the end ("swing states"). Another new rule: popular vote is what counts, not number of delegates. And not just any old reckoning of popular vote - let's count all of the Hillary vote in Michigan and Florida, let's exclude the popular vote from selected if not all caucus states, and certainly we will count the popular vote in Puerto Rico, despite that fact that their votes won't swing or carry at all, come November. Yes, superdelegates - these are the factors you should factor in - wait a minute, who needs superdelegates when one has the popular vote!
Isn't it the height of sexism to consider that Hillary has to be let down gently from these delusions of grandeur? If a male candidate were in her present position, wouldn't he concede already? Due to the nature of her fair sex, there will be a delay in the crucial healing process for the Democratic party. She will hurt the party. Way to go, first viable female candidate!
Fair - I thought the best parts of McCain's appearance on SNL hadn't to do with age, but with the continuing Democratic fight - let it go on, he said, even till November - he would support both candidates being in the race - in fact, bring back John Edwards too, for good measure. McCain hasn't the best comic timing, but I've definitely seen worse.
Isn't it the height of sexism to consider that Hillary has to be let down gently from these delusions of grandeur? If a male candidate were in her present position, wouldn't he concede already? Due to the nature of her fair sex, there will be a delay in the crucial healing process for the Democratic party. She will hurt the party. Way to go, first viable female candidate!
Fair - I thought the best parts of McCain's appearance on SNL hadn't to do with age, but with the continuing Democratic fight - let it go on, he said, even till November - he would support both candidates being in the race - in fact, bring back John Edwards too, for good measure. McCain hasn't the best comic timing, but I've definitely seen worse.
Monday, May 19, 2008
An old joke?
What's with John McCain lately? It seems the beloved "maverick" of the Senate has stooped to making fun of himself to gain free media attention. Is it smart of him to bring more attention to a possible liability? Is age something that will even be considered? To me, the sound-bytes do not even play that well on television.
If this becomes more than a one-time component of the republican campaign, Democrats will be all but assured of a win - maybe even in Iowa.
Cheers
If this becomes more than a one-time component of the republican campaign, Democrats will be all but assured of a win - maybe even in Iowa.
Cheers
May 9 - May 19 exchanges
I don't know what Wes has been doing with himself, but I do hear his name as veep-candidate on this or that show. One anti-Wes point seems to be that he didn't "play well with others" - something about how he got along in his high commands with others . . .
From my experience donating, you may as well start small - believe me, you will get an e-mail every day from the campaign on this or that topic - here, call these 25 people in OR or KY was my last one - and every time there is a donate button. Sometimes, a specific amount for a specific purpose is asked for. Then you can become a repeat donor! Maybe that will put you in a special class!
- - Ing, May 19, 2008
I'm not hoping for the perfect moment - I'm just saying - he should know better. I already back him for the most part. Once Hillary *gracefully* exits the stage I'll be donating (an even bigger donation if Wes Clark ends up as VP) :)
Have you heard anything re: Wes Clark’s whereabouts lately?
- - Fair, May 19, 2008
Every candidate I can remember has small gaffes - all that can be said is better to make them now and learn how not to make them in the future. For some, the carry-over will last till fall, but for many, these gaffes will be forgotten. If you are going to "withhold your affections" waiting for perfect play, you will be disappointed ;->
- - Ing, May 19, 2008
I was thinking the same - she will win KY, Obama in OR. I have a feeling Obama will have a lopsided win in OR - I am curious to see by how many percentage points Clinton wins in KY.
You know, I really want to "GOBAMA" 100% but he keeps making what I will call stupid mistakes. The Peggy Agar Channel 7 reporter "Sweetie" incident in Sterling Heights is another example. Such a small gaffe, but since Obama has relatively little history on which he can be judged, any mishaps get magnified to a ridiculous, unreasonable extent. Between the "Sweetie" comment and the infamous San Francisco comment about rural folks I really think he will have a hard time with the "Reagan Democrat" crowd... not all, but enough to cause us headaches in November.
- - Fair, May 19, 2008
Things seem to be winding down in the Obama/Clinton race. Clinton isn't attacking Obama too much - really not at all - she's focusing on McCain, and still saying the race should go on, all states should count, she is ahead in the popular vote. As to the latter - she counts Florida and Michigan but doesn't count some of the caucus states where I understand the popular vote was not completely tallied. But it's more like going through the motions . . . she is sure to win KY while he is sure to win OR . . . will be interesting to hear what the speeches and spin are tomorrow night.
- - Ing, May 19, 2008
I think hypocrisy sums it up best. I actually have a bit more sympathy toward the conservative postion on abortion (I still totally disagree with it) than that on gays. In the 21th century there is just no excuse for anti-gay hatred and discrimination. I always feel that the biggest screamers on this topic are personally threatened by their own ambivalence. Speaking of big screamers - have you seen the 20 year old video of Bill O'Reilly from when he hosted Inside Edition and he was frustrated with some sign-off process for an episode? Last night, Keith Olbermann had this hilarious send-up, an analysis of O'Reilly's body language. Turned out the expert was a fake and former member of the Daily Show writing staff. Don't know if this link will work for you (or if you have time):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24657668#24657668
- - Ing, May 16, 2008
The republicans seem, from past events, to have a few confused members among their ranks (Larry Craig, Mark Foley, etc...). Double talk if you ask me.
- - Fair, May 16, 2008
It's not often lately that I have anything nice to say about Hillary, but yesterday it was postively good of her to find Bush's comment in the Israel Knesset (sp) outlandish and appalling or words to that effect. Bush said that "some" (read Obama) say we should talk with terrorists and radicals but that is the delusional path of appeasers, as in Neville Chamberlane and Hitler and Nazis. Obama struck back swiftly, saying that Reagan and Nixon and JFK spoke to adversaries but he, Obama, would never speak with terrorists, including Hamas. McCain came out with the statement that Obama is naive and inexperienced.
Based on what the California Supreme Court ruled yesterday, gay marriage is probably going to be a big topic this election year.
- - Ing, May 16, 2008
Even if that Democrat attempted to "run away" from Obama - the margin of his win was surprising and probably puts others supporting his candidacy at ease about being called an uber-Liberal, Rev. Wright-loving lefty. Didn't the Bush team (Karl Rove) get many House republicans elected (and Bush) by painting any Dem. candidate as a pro-gay marriage, anti-gun, etc... person?
- - Fair, May 16, 2008
The Dem. who won in Mississippi ran as a conservative Democrat and - in the words of the pundits - he "ran away" from Obama, saying he had never met the man, nor Rev. Wright. Won't be able to run away as easily in November. Still, there is time between now and then to try to educate . . .but not THAT much time. That is why I'd like the Obama/Clinton race over sooner rather than later. Enough lessons have already been learned - time to end it now. I'm afraid of what will happen in and after Kentucky. Of course the Obama team knows what they are doing, but I'm sure they did not expect so huge a defeat in West Virginia - we don't need a repeat of that in KY. I hope they campaign there more, or send Edwards as a surrogate.
You know me - spontaneous road trips are pretty much a thing of the past. But if Obama comes to Lansing or East Lansing or Jackson, I'll try a lot harder to make it. I am easily swept up in the emotion of things - I'm sure I would be moved beyond measure by an in-person experience of the Obama oratorical magic!
The Republicans are *polite word for* screwed!
- - Ing, May 15, 2008
I wondered if you drove west to Gd. Rapids for the rally. I'm not sure I have an opinion about the West VA results - does not change too much to me. What the extended campaign is doing is providing a lot of free media time to Obama and Clinton. I still think Clinton is doing Obama a favor by keeping the race alive and making all of her Obama issues "old news" now and not fresh material for republicans in a few months. As long as she keeps positive like she has the last few days.......
The race I was watching was the special election in Mississippi held to replace a republican congressman that was won by a democrat... a democrat the republicans tried to tie to Obama AND the Rev. Wright, if I'm not mistaken. The dem won in what I hear is a conservative southern area - "if they can't win there, where can they win?"
Race may not be so much of an issue, as I hope. I was concerned about this - not so much after the special election results.
I wonder what is going through the minds of republican strategists!??
- - Fair, May 15, 2008
So - what do you think of the West VA. results? Sure would have been nice if Barack's percentage had been a bit higher - being beaten by 41 points is rather embarrassing. On the other hand, if there have been unpublicized racist incidents against Obama campaign offices and volunteers in Indiana and so on (as reported recently in the Wash Post), I would expect even more of that kind of sentiment in the hills of West Virginny. Hillary kept comparing her situation to that of JFK and how he was behind when he campaigned in West VA.. He won - getting them to overlook their prejudice of Catholicism. I'm afraid that racial prejudices are just a mite more deep-seated than those among the Christian denominations.
- - Ing, May 15, 2008
I too think it was great that the endorsement came in Michigan!
- - Fair, May 15, 2008
Sounds like Obama's visit to Warren went pretty well - except for calling a female TV reporter, "Sweetie." Obama has since apologized, calling it a bad habit of his. Terry used to call any woman in a service capacity - waitress, cashier, etc. - "babe" and it bothered me because I thought some ladies would take offense. None did in our presence - who knows what they said behind his back ;-> Just can't be "endearing" any more - it is politically incorrect.
Edwards' endorsement was a relief yesterday - wish I could have been in Grand Rapids - I got an invite! via e-mail. I get e-mail nearly every day now, from the campaign.
- - Ing, May 15, 2008
I will have to read up at lunch to see what City Council is doing.
The intolerant fools causing trouble with the Obama campaign are the folks that will vote for McCain strictly for race reasons - but perhaps would have voted for Clinton because she is white. This race issue will not go away... Just wait until the republicans air TV ads with the former Rev. Wright saying he will be "knocking" at the White House door for some sort of payback when Obama is elected (or similar) – whatever the comment was. Feeds right in to the fear of this demographic.
It may haunt republicans in more independent, educated suburban areas; but will play right at home in some parts of the country. I'm sure this was accounted for in the November contest map or superdelegates would be staying on Clinton's side.
- - Fair, May 13, 2008
I just read some stuff in the Washington Post about racism experienced by Obama campaign street-level workers - things shouted at them (N-word, whether they are white or black), vandalism to campaign offices, etc. - and then, even from local officials, like mayors of small towns, statements about Obama being a half-blood American, brought up muslim, etc. - and these are all Clinton supporters. That's what she attracts with her statements about her hard-working American white supporters!
Kwame is under fire - the council is voting on censure and removal from office, etc.
- - Ing, May 13, 2008
It will be interesting to see how the Clinton campaign spins tonight's (and the upcoming KY) win. Maybe she wants to go out on a high note - or whatever the current thought similar to that is.
- - Fair, May 13, 2008
Subject: Hillary Widget - Down to 1.6% - yeah!
Terry McAuliffe was on MSNBC this morning going through this whole scenario where she wins West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and maybe Montana - racks up more popular votes than Obama and on she goes to the nomination! The pundits weren't really buying it . . .
- - Ing, May 13, 2008
No wonder I didn't hear about it - I've almost entirely limited my attention to Obama v. Clinton, paying attention to McCain only if he's said or done something about Obama. . . .
- - Ing, May 13, 2008
Re: #2 - Ron Paul supporters caused the chair of the Nevada republican party to cancel or postpone the "going-through-the-motions" state convention proceeding to formally endorse John McCain. This was about two weeks ago. From what I remember hearing, Paul supporters (and those unhappy with McCain) showed up to cause chaos... and it worked.
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
1. Yes - I try not to be, because I get too emotional, but it's not really within my control.
2. I guess I don't remember about Ron Paul and Nevada - did he do quite well there? Second to Mitt-ney?
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
You are truly invested in Obama's candidacy :)
Bob Barr is, in my opinion, using the Libertarian ticket as a platform on which to run. I think he is more aligned with the Christian fundamentalist crowd as opposed to being a true Libertarian. Perhaps his candidacy is the first major public protest by far right republicans to the mainstream maverick. Look at the votes for Huckabee after he suspended his campaign - and the Ron Paul incident in Nevada.
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
You don't know the half of it - when I'm home watching TV and she comes on, I use another word . . .but once she has dropped out the race and begun campaigning for Obama - as she has promised that she and Bill will - I will like her again alright ;->. But if he's elected and she tries to unseat him in 2012, all bets are off!
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
Now... be nice. (Hillary-the-albatross)
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
Yes, it could work out that way . . . but if Barr portrays himself as a true Libertarian (as opposed to just using that as a convenient ticket to run on), then he would need to espouse certain get-government-out-of-our-lives positions that conservative Republicans would not care for. For example, I think true Libertarians are pro-choice (by definition, they want maximum choice for everything) and are unlikely to align themselves with Christian fundamentalists. I think the main reason people are attracted to Libertarians is their stance on taxes - as low as possible to fund defense of the country against outside attact, and police to protect against crime . . . I think most everything else could be private, according to them.
I think once Hillary-the-albatross is off Obama's back, he will surprise everyone in how many states he brings into play!
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
Alright... I was at CNN.com at lunch and saw that former GA Rep. Bob Barr is running for President on the Libertarian ticket. He may be McCain's "Ralph Nader." I think there are enough McCain-suspicious conservative republicans to vote third party and have that make an impact (could GA now be in play for Obama?).
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
What I have heard is that Hillary needs to make a graceful exit - "her" superdelegates want to allow for that - they mostly feel that if she wants to campaign till the last primary on June 3, it won't really hurt the presumptive nominee, Obama - UNLESS she goes negative. The much replayed remarks she made in the interview with US Today, where she said she "quoted" the AP and talked about having the support of hard-working white people - these gave some of the pundits (and presumeably, the superdelegates) pause that she was going to revert to old habits.
I've also heard that after her foregone-conclusion win in West VA. tomorrow, she will go out later in the week, on a high.
The best comprehensive site on superdelegates which I have seen is at the New York Times website,
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/superdelegates/index.html
I posted at the blog yesterday - about Michigan, the stupid Jan. 15, primary, how it doesn't matter, we'll still vote for Obama. . .
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
I'm getting to the Post website more and more. I still check the Free Press website just as much as the Post website.
It will be interesting to see how the media treats Sen. Clinton's win tomorrow - headline or non-headline news. Either way I have a feeling it is going to draw out her campaign.
One question I have is what is keeping the superdelegates from, en masse, questioning the viability of Clinton's campaign. Is it strictly loyalty or do they see some true "risk" with Obama. Time will tell.
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
I'm glad to see you looking more and more at washingtonpost.com - be sure and look for the link to Media Notes - that is name of my favorite political/media blog by Howard Kurtz.
It just doesn't seem like there are any great visionaries anymore. Louisiana and Mississippi needed some visionary leadership after Katrina in order to tackle rebuilding in a manner which acknowledged the past but also looked forward, being in the 21st century - but no such person has arisen. The transportation crossroads discussed below is another example - I'm sure it is too big for any one person, but a visionary president would help. I think Obama could fit that bill, much more so than McCain or Clinton. But so far the presidential campaign discussion has been focused on energy supply and prices, not so much on infrastructure.
Hopefully, the pundits won't renege on their analysis - Hillary will win West VA. big, but it just won't matter, because it won't alter the math. If they start saying she has a chance, I don't know what I'll do. . .
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
A Transportation Crossroads [from May 9, 2008 www.washingtonpost.com ]
By Judith Rodin
Friday, May 9, 2008; A27
All the gas tax talk has stirred up a storm. Whatever you think about the candidates' proposals, however, their debate has illuminated an urgent reality: If the U.S. government continues with its current transportation policies, it will undermine the social and economic security of our workforce and accelerate global climate change. We must chart a new course, rebuilding America's overburdened and, in many cases, obsolete transportation infrastructure while addressing these two 21st-century imperatives.
The good news is that we can tackle these challenges head-on -- with immediate benefits for our lagging economy. In the short term, "fix it first" strategies can repair existing infrastructure rather than beginning new construction, thus containing our carbon footprint. The Economic Policy Institute, for example, determined that, within 90 days, repair work could begin on 6,000 structurally deficient bridges across the country for about $30 billion, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Over the long run, policymakers must also develop a more comprehensive plan. This is heavy lifting, and we're just getting started. The Brookings Institution's Metropolitan Policy Program, the Regional Plan Association's America 2050 initiative, the Bipartisan Policy Center and others are framing a national infrastructure vision. Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg just launched Building America's Future, a nonpartisan coalition focused on advocating best practices and new ideas. And today in Washington, public officials and business, labor and civic leaders from across the country are gathering for a summit, Rebuilding and Renewing America, to draft a blueprint for 21st-century investments.
Just how dire are the risks? The collapse of the Interstate 35-W bridge in Minneapolis last August points to a fundamental crisis. Transportation systems and structures are outmoded and stressed beyond their capacities. This is not an abstraction; we suffer the consequences during our commutes every day. Traffic congestion in 2005 drained $78 billion from our economy, according to Texas A&M's 2007 Urban Mobility Report, adding 4.2 billion hours to Americans' commutes while wasting 2.9 billion gallons of gasoline.
Another critical danger is environmental. Today, the transportation sector consumes 90 percent of the United States' imported oil while producing one-third of the nation's greenhouse gas emissions -- and one-twelfth of the world's. Yet the federal government clings to a backward funding formula: The more a state's residents drive, the more money that state receives. In fact, projected increases in automotive travel will release so much greenhouse gas by 2020 that environmental protections achieved through higher gas-mileage requirements and anticipated advances in low-emissions fuels will be completely negated.
A less visible danger is economic. Transportation costs, now the second-highest household expense, are pricing families out of the American dream -- preventing them from saving, buying homes or investing in their children's educations. A 2006 Center for Housing Policy report indicated that working families in large metropolitan areas spend nearly a third of their incomes on transportation. A study by the American Public Transportation Association clarifies the connection between these challenges and the country's critical need for investment in mass transit: Two of every three regular users of public transportation earn less than $50,000 a year. The federal government, meanwhile, directs only one of every five gas-tax dollars to automobile alternatives.
As we look to the future, we must expand affordable, accessible and environmentally sustainable transportation options: high-speed and light rail, rapid and mass transit, and walkable, bikeable streets. Washington must provide new incentives for states and cities to promote greener land use, cleaner cars and decreased automotive dependence.
Fortunately, an extraordinary opportunity is on the horizon. Regardless of who wins in November, the new president and Congress will come to a crossroads when the highway bill is up for reauthorization next year. We must prepare to seize this moment by investing now in the search for solutions.
A half-century has passed since President Dwight Eisenhower signed the legislation establishing the United States' interstate highway system. That was among the most daring ideas of its time. It was a road map for the infrastructure that enabled 50 years of unrivaled economic prosperity and opportunity. Today, we must again dare to think and act boldly, but in a different way, because the world has dramatically changed.
The writer is president of the Rockefeller Foundation, which has provided funding for the America 2050 forum, Rebuilding & Renewing America: Toward a 21st Century Infrastructure Investment Plan.
- - [article posted by] Fair, May 9, 2008
From my experience donating, you may as well start small - believe me, you will get an e-mail every day from the campaign on this or that topic - here, call these 25 people in OR or KY was my last one - and every time there is a donate button. Sometimes, a specific amount for a specific purpose is asked for. Then you can become a repeat donor! Maybe that will put you in a special class!
- - Ing, May 19, 2008
I'm not hoping for the perfect moment - I'm just saying - he should know better. I already back him for the most part. Once Hillary *gracefully* exits the stage I'll be donating (an even bigger donation if Wes Clark ends up as VP) :)
Have you heard anything re: Wes Clark’s whereabouts lately?
- - Fair, May 19, 2008
Every candidate I can remember has small gaffes - all that can be said is better to make them now and learn how not to make them in the future. For some, the carry-over will last till fall, but for many, these gaffes will be forgotten. If you are going to "withhold your affections" waiting for perfect play, you will be disappointed ;->
- - Ing, May 19, 2008
I was thinking the same - she will win KY, Obama in OR. I have a feeling Obama will have a lopsided win in OR - I am curious to see by how many percentage points Clinton wins in KY.
You know, I really want to "GOBAMA" 100% but he keeps making what I will call stupid mistakes. The Peggy Agar Channel 7 reporter "Sweetie" incident in Sterling Heights is another example. Such a small gaffe, but since Obama has relatively little history on which he can be judged, any mishaps get magnified to a ridiculous, unreasonable extent. Between the "Sweetie" comment and the infamous San Francisco comment about rural folks I really think he will have a hard time with the "Reagan Democrat" crowd... not all, but enough to cause us headaches in November.
- - Fair, May 19, 2008
Things seem to be winding down in the Obama/Clinton race. Clinton isn't attacking Obama too much - really not at all - she's focusing on McCain, and still saying the race should go on, all states should count, she is ahead in the popular vote. As to the latter - she counts Florida and Michigan but doesn't count some of the caucus states where I understand the popular vote was not completely tallied. But it's more like going through the motions . . . she is sure to win KY while he is sure to win OR . . . will be interesting to hear what the speeches and spin are tomorrow night.
- - Ing, May 19, 2008
I think hypocrisy sums it up best. I actually have a bit more sympathy toward the conservative postion on abortion (I still totally disagree with it) than that on gays. In the 21th century there is just no excuse for anti-gay hatred and discrimination. I always feel that the biggest screamers on this topic are personally threatened by their own ambivalence. Speaking of big screamers - have you seen the 20 year old video of Bill O'Reilly from when he hosted Inside Edition and he was frustrated with some sign-off process for an episode? Last night, Keith Olbermann had this hilarious send-up, an analysis of O'Reilly's body language. Turned out the expert was a fake and former member of the Daily Show writing staff. Don't know if this link will work for you (or if you have time):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24657668#24657668
- - Ing, May 16, 2008
The republicans seem, from past events, to have a few confused members among their ranks (Larry Craig, Mark Foley, etc...). Double talk if you ask me.
- - Fair, May 16, 2008
It's not often lately that I have anything nice to say about Hillary, but yesterday it was postively good of her to find Bush's comment in the Israel Knesset (sp) outlandish and appalling or words to that effect. Bush said that "some" (read Obama) say we should talk with terrorists and radicals but that is the delusional path of appeasers, as in Neville Chamberlane and Hitler and Nazis. Obama struck back swiftly, saying that Reagan and Nixon and JFK spoke to adversaries but he, Obama, would never speak with terrorists, including Hamas. McCain came out with the statement that Obama is naive and inexperienced.
Based on what the California Supreme Court ruled yesterday, gay marriage is probably going to be a big topic this election year.
- - Ing, May 16, 2008
Even if that Democrat attempted to "run away" from Obama - the margin of his win was surprising and probably puts others supporting his candidacy at ease about being called an uber-Liberal, Rev. Wright-loving lefty. Didn't the Bush team (Karl Rove) get many House republicans elected (and Bush) by painting any Dem. candidate as a pro-gay marriage, anti-gun, etc... person?
- - Fair, May 16, 2008
The Dem. who won in Mississippi ran as a conservative Democrat and - in the words of the pundits - he "ran away" from Obama, saying he had never met the man, nor Rev. Wright. Won't be able to run away as easily in November. Still, there is time between now and then to try to educate . . .but not THAT much time. That is why I'd like the Obama/Clinton race over sooner rather than later. Enough lessons have already been learned - time to end it now. I'm afraid of what will happen in and after Kentucky. Of course the Obama team knows what they are doing, but I'm sure they did not expect so huge a defeat in West Virginia - we don't need a repeat of that in KY. I hope they campaign there more, or send Edwards as a surrogate.
You know me - spontaneous road trips are pretty much a thing of the past. But if Obama comes to Lansing or East Lansing or Jackson, I'll try a lot harder to make it. I am easily swept up in the emotion of things - I'm sure I would be moved beyond measure by an in-person experience of the Obama oratorical magic!
The Republicans are *polite word for* screwed!
- - Ing, May 15, 2008
I wondered if you drove west to Gd. Rapids for the rally. I'm not sure I have an opinion about the West VA results - does not change too much to me. What the extended campaign is doing is providing a lot of free media time to Obama and Clinton. I still think Clinton is doing Obama a favor by keeping the race alive and making all of her Obama issues "old news" now and not fresh material for republicans in a few months. As long as she keeps positive like she has the last few days.......
The race I was watching was the special election in Mississippi held to replace a republican congressman that was won by a democrat... a democrat the republicans tried to tie to Obama AND the Rev. Wright, if I'm not mistaken. The dem won in what I hear is a conservative southern area - "if they can't win there, where can they win?"
Race may not be so much of an issue, as I hope. I was concerned about this - not so much after the special election results.
I wonder what is going through the minds of republican strategists!??
- - Fair, May 15, 2008
So - what do you think of the West VA. results? Sure would have been nice if Barack's percentage had been a bit higher - being beaten by 41 points is rather embarrassing. On the other hand, if there have been unpublicized racist incidents against Obama campaign offices and volunteers in Indiana and so on (as reported recently in the Wash Post), I would expect even more of that kind of sentiment in the hills of West Virginny. Hillary kept comparing her situation to that of JFK and how he was behind when he campaigned in West VA.. He won - getting them to overlook their prejudice of Catholicism. I'm afraid that racial prejudices are just a mite more deep-seated than those among the Christian denominations.
- - Ing, May 15, 2008
I too think it was great that the endorsement came in Michigan!
- - Fair, May 15, 2008
Sounds like Obama's visit to Warren went pretty well - except for calling a female TV reporter, "Sweetie." Obama has since apologized, calling it a bad habit of his. Terry used to call any woman in a service capacity - waitress, cashier, etc. - "babe" and it bothered me because I thought some ladies would take offense. None did in our presence - who knows what they said behind his back ;-> Just can't be "endearing" any more - it is politically incorrect.
Edwards' endorsement was a relief yesterday - wish I could have been in Grand Rapids - I got an invite! via e-mail. I get e-mail nearly every day now, from the campaign.
- - Ing, May 15, 2008
I will have to read up at lunch to see what City Council is doing.
The intolerant fools causing trouble with the Obama campaign are the folks that will vote for McCain strictly for race reasons - but perhaps would have voted for Clinton because she is white. This race issue will not go away... Just wait until the republicans air TV ads with the former Rev. Wright saying he will be "knocking" at the White House door for some sort of payback when Obama is elected (or similar) – whatever the comment was. Feeds right in to the fear of this demographic.
It may haunt republicans in more independent, educated suburban areas; but will play right at home in some parts of the country. I'm sure this was accounted for in the November contest map or superdelegates would be staying on Clinton's side.
- - Fair, May 13, 2008
I just read some stuff in the Washington Post about racism experienced by Obama campaign street-level workers - things shouted at them (N-word, whether they are white or black), vandalism to campaign offices, etc. - and then, even from local officials, like mayors of small towns, statements about Obama being a half-blood American, brought up muslim, etc. - and these are all Clinton supporters. That's what she attracts with her statements about her hard-working American white supporters!
Kwame is under fire - the council is voting on censure and removal from office, etc.
- - Ing, May 13, 2008
It will be interesting to see how the Clinton campaign spins tonight's (and the upcoming KY) win. Maybe she wants to go out on a high note - or whatever the current thought similar to that is.
- - Fair, May 13, 2008
Subject: Hillary Widget - Down to 1.6% - yeah!
Terry McAuliffe was on MSNBC this morning going through this whole scenario where she wins West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and maybe Montana - racks up more popular votes than Obama and on she goes to the nomination! The pundits weren't really buying it . . .
- - Ing, May 13, 2008
No wonder I didn't hear about it - I've almost entirely limited my attention to Obama v. Clinton, paying attention to McCain only if he's said or done something about Obama. . . .
- - Ing, May 13, 2008
Re: #2 - Ron Paul supporters caused the chair of the Nevada republican party to cancel or postpone the "going-through-the-motions" state convention proceeding to formally endorse John McCain. This was about two weeks ago. From what I remember hearing, Paul supporters (and those unhappy with McCain) showed up to cause chaos... and it worked.
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
1. Yes - I try not to be, because I get too emotional, but it's not really within my control.
2. I guess I don't remember about Ron Paul and Nevada - did he do quite well there? Second to Mitt-ney?
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
You are truly invested in Obama's candidacy :)
Bob Barr is, in my opinion, using the Libertarian ticket as a platform on which to run. I think he is more aligned with the Christian fundamentalist crowd as opposed to being a true Libertarian. Perhaps his candidacy is the first major public protest by far right republicans to the mainstream maverick. Look at the votes for Huckabee after he suspended his campaign - and the Ron Paul incident in Nevada.
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
You don't know the half of it - when I'm home watching TV and she comes on, I use another word . . .but once she has dropped out the race and begun campaigning for Obama - as she has promised that she and Bill will - I will like her again alright ;->. But if he's elected and she tries to unseat him in 2012, all bets are off!
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
Now... be nice. (Hillary-the-albatross)
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
Yes, it could work out that way . . . but if Barr portrays himself as a true Libertarian (as opposed to just using that as a convenient ticket to run on), then he would need to espouse certain get-government-out-of-our-lives positions that conservative Republicans would not care for. For example, I think true Libertarians are pro-choice (by definition, they want maximum choice for everything) and are unlikely to align themselves with Christian fundamentalists. I think the main reason people are attracted to Libertarians is their stance on taxes - as low as possible to fund defense of the country against outside attact, and police to protect against crime . . . I think most everything else could be private, according to them.
I think once Hillary-the-albatross is off Obama's back, he will surprise everyone in how many states he brings into play!
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
Alright... I was at CNN.com at lunch and saw that former GA Rep. Bob Barr is running for President on the Libertarian ticket. He may be McCain's "Ralph Nader." I think there are enough McCain-suspicious conservative republicans to vote third party and have that make an impact (could GA now be in play for Obama?).
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
What I have heard is that Hillary needs to make a graceful exit - "her" superdelegates want to allow for that - they mostly feel that if she wants to campaign till the last primary on June 3, it won't really hurt the presumptive nominee, Obama - UNLESS she goes negative. The much replayed remarks she made in the interview with US Today, where she said she "quoted" the AP and talked about having the support of hard-working white people - these gave some of the pundits (and presumeably, the superdelegates) pause that she was going to revert to old habits.
I've also heard that after her foregone-conclusion win in West VA. tomorrow, she will go out later in the week, on a high.
The best comprehensive site on superdelegates which I have seen is at the New York Times website,
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/superdelegates/index.html
I posted at the blog yesterday - about Michigan, the stupid Jan. 15, primary, how it doesn't matter, we'll still vote for Obama. . .
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
I'm getting to the Post website more and more. I still check the Free Press website just as much as the Post website.
It will be interesting to see how the media treats Sen. Clinton's win tomorrow - headline or non-headline news. Either way I have a feeling it is going to draw out her campaign.
One question I have is what is keeping the superdelegates from, en masse, questioning the viability of Clinton's campaign. Is it strictly loyalty or do they see some true "risk" with Obama. Time will tell.
- - Fair, May 12, 2008
I'm glad to see you looking more and more at washingtonpost.com - be sure and look for the link to Media Notes - that is name of my favorite political/media blog by Howard Kurtz.
It just doesn't seem like there are any great visionaries anymore. Louisiana and Mississippi needed some visionary leadership after Katrina in order to tackle rebuilding in a manner which acknowledged the past but also looked forward, being in the 21st century - but no such person has arisen. The transportation crossroads discussed below is another example - I'm sure it is too big for any one person, but a visionary president would help. I think Obama could fit that bill, much more so than McCain or Clinton. But so far the presidential campaign discussion has been focused on energy supply and prices, not so much on infrastructure.
Hopefully, the pundits won't renege on their analysis - Hillary will win West VA. big, but it just won't matter, because it won't alter the math. If they start saying she has a chance, I don't know what I'll do. . .
- - Ing, May 12, 2008
A Transportation Crossroads [from May 9, 2008 www.washingtonpost.com ]
By Judith Rodin
Friday, May 9, 2008; A27
All the gas tax talk has stirred up a storm. Whatever you think about the candidates' proposals, however, their debate has illuminated an urgent reality: If the U.S. government continues with its current transportation policies, it will undermine the social and economic security of our workforce and accelerate global climate change. We must chart a new course, rebuilding America's overburdened and, in many cases, obsolete transportation infrastructure while addressing these two 21st-century imperatives.
The good news is that we can tackle these challenges head-on -- with immediate benefits for our lagging economy. In the short term, "fix it first" strategies can repair existing infrastructure rather than beginning new construction, thus containing our carbon footprint. The Economic Policy Institute, for example, determined that, within 90 days, repair work could begin on 6,000 structurally deficient bridges across the country for about $30 billion, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Over the long run, policymakers must also develop a more comprehensive plan. This is heavy lifting, and we're just getting started. The Brookings Institution's Metropolitan Policy Program, the Regional Plan Association's America 2050 initiative, the Bipartisan Policy Center and others are framing a national infrastructure vision. Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg just launched Building America's Future, a nonpartisan coalition focused on advocating best practices and new ideas. And today in Washington, public officials and business, labor and civic leaders from across the country are gathering for a summit, Rebuilding and Renewing America, to draft a blueprint for 21st-century investments.
Just how dire are the risks? The collapse of the Interstate 35-W bridge in Minneapolis last August points to a fundamental crisis. Transportation systems and structures are outmoded and stressed beyond their capacities. This is not an abstraction; we suffer the consequences during our commutes every day. Traffic congestion in 2005 drained $78 billion from our economy, according to Texas A&M's 2007 Urban Mobility Report, adding 4.2 billion hours to Americans' commutes while wasting 2.9 billion gallons of gasoline.
Another critical danger is environmental. Today, the transportation sector consumes 90 percent of the United States' imported oil while producing one-third of the nation's greenhouse gas emissions -- and one-twelfth of the world's. Yet the federal government clings to a backward funding formula: The more a state's residents drive, the more money that state receives. In fact, projected increases in automotive travel will release so much greenhouse gas by 2020 that environmental protections achieved through higher gas-mileage requirements and anticipated advances in low-emissions fuels will be completely negated.
A less visible danger is economic. Transportation costs, now the second-highest household expense, are pricing families out of the American dream -- preventing them from saving, buying homes or investing in their children's educations. A 2006 Center for Housing Policy report indicated that working families in large metropolitan areas spend nearly a third of their incomes on transportation. A study by the American Public Transportation Association clarifies the connection between these challenges and the country's critical need for investment in mass transit: Two of every three regular users of public transportation earn less than $50,000 a year. The federal government, meanwhile, directs only one of every five gas-tax dollars to automobile alternatives.
As we look to the future, we must expand affordable, accessible and environmentally sustainable transportation options: high-speed and light rail, rapid and mass transit, and walkable, bikeable streets. Washington must provide new incentives for states and cities to promote greener land use, cleaner cars and decreased automotive dependence.
Fortunately, an extraordinary opportunity is on the horizon. Regardless of who wins in November, the new president and Congress will come to a crossroads when the highway bill is up for reauthorization next year. We must prepare to seize this moment by investing now in the search for solutions.
A half-century has passed since President Dwight Eisenhower signed the legislation establishing the United States' interstate highway system. That was among the most daring ideas of its time. It was a road map for the infrastructure that enabled 50 years of unrivaled economic prosperity and opportunity. Today, we must again dare to think and act boldly, but in a different way, because the world has dramatically changed.
The writer is president of the Rockefeller Foundation, which has provided funding for the America 2050 forum, Rebuilding & Renewing America: Toward a 21st Century Infrastructure Investment Plan.
- - [article posted by] Fair, May 9, 2008
Sunday, May 18, 2008
The Long Goodbye
I think that Hillary knows and has known for some time that she will not be the party's nominee. However, her women supporters are so heavily invested in the first realistic chance at a woman for president, they have to be handled carefully. I think she sincerely wants to help them with their coming let-down, and to get them to come over to supporting Obama.
I hope - I don't know - that the price of her goodwill will NOT be the veep spot on the ticket. As most pundits seem to be saying, her Washington ties and attitudes do not jive well with his Washington is broken and needs fixing -mantra. Plus, there'd be the problem of the "second spouse" - Bill. What to do with Bill.
My more immediate hope, coming up this Tuesday - what if there is another Hillary blow-out in Kentucky? I keep hoping to hear that he has at least visited KY - it has some big cities, after all, that should be better pickings for him. I don't want another West Virginia, even if balanced with a decent to good to great win in Oregon. . . .
I hope - I don't know - that the price of her goodwill will NOT be the veep spot on the ticket. As most pundits seem to be saying, her Washington ties and attitudes do not jive well with his Washington is broken and needs fixing -mantra. Plus, there'd be the problem of the "second spouse" - Bill. What to do with Bill.
My more immediate hope, coming up this Tuesday - what if there is another Hillary blow-out in Kentucky? I keep hoping to hear that he has at least visited KY - it has some big cities, after all, that should be better pickings for him. I don't want another West Virginia, even if balanced with a decent to good to great win in Oregon. . . .
Wednesday, May 14, 2008
Move those Goal Posts!
Okay - the former chairman of the DNC, Terry McAuliffe, who helped write the rules by which the party selects its presidential nominee, states that the operative metric is the popular vote, counting an "election" in Michigan in which Obama wasn't on the ballot ("It was Obama's choice! Terry shouts), and an "election" in Florida, where no one actually campaigned, and apparently, the upcoming election in Puerto Rico - wonderful people all, but they can't vote in the general election.
It's time for the superdelegates to step up and come out for Obama, if that is there choice. It does not good for the party to allow Hillary to keep up her racially divisive and class-oriented doomed-to-fail quest. For her own good, for the good of the party, for the good of the presumptive nominee, Barack Obama, END THIS NOW!
It's time for the superdelegates to step up and come out for Obama, if that is there choice. It does not good for the party to allow Hillary to keep up her racially divisive and class-oriented doomed-to-fail quest. For her own good, for the good of the party, for the good of the presumptive nominee, Barack Obama, END THIS NOW!
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Pool Shark!
Wow - did you see Obama shoot some stick yesterday, in Missouri, I think? Again, like his smooth baritone voice, shooting pool is a superficial attribute, but there is a fair amount of window-dressing associated with the Presidency. We remember it from JFK - we remember it's utter absence from Carter. Nixon eschewed cool in favor of imperial trappings - didn't work out so well for him.
Here's hoping for turnout in West Virginia to be suppressed by news stories of the race being essentially over - Hillary is going for maximum popular vote in her tilting-at-windmills quest.
Here's hoping for turnout in West Virginia to be suppressed by news stories of the race being essentially over - Hillary is going for maximum popular vote in her tilting-at-windmills quest.
Sunday, May 11, 2008
Michigan will vote for Obama!
I listened to Hillary's campaign chairman on a couple of the Sunday morning news shows today. He made the point that Michigan delegates HAVE to be seated at the convention; otherwise Michigan will vote for McCain. HELLO! I think I can speak for many Michiganders that we are not happy with how the January 15 "primary" was handled, we would have liked to have the opportunity to vote for Obama - absent that, we voted uncommitted or some of us voted in the Republican primary in something akin to operation chaos in Indiana. Regardless - we are not idiots! We know that neither Hillary nor Barack campaigned in Michigan and they were not supposed to, according to party rules. We understood the rules - we recognized that our state officials took a gamble that they could force the DNC to recognize our "jump the line"early primary.
They lost that gamble! It's on their heads - but it has nothing to do with our support for Obama then, and even less to do with our support for Obama now, having been able to watch all of the remaining races, primaries and caucuses unfold. So - we don't CARE about what happened in Januaray 15 - we don't even care about the the August convention - Obama will be the nominee - it's a done deal now, and we WILL vote for Obama over McCain in November!
They lost that gamble! It's on their heads - but it has nothing to do with our support for Obama then, and even less to do with our support for Obama now, having been able to watch all of the remaining races, primaries and caucuses unfold. So - we don't CARE about what happened in Januaray 15 - we don't even care about the the August convention - Obama will be the nominee - it's a done deal now, and we WILL vote for Obama over McCain in November!
Friday, May 9, 2008
May 6 - May 9 exchanges
You're right about that demographic - Rush Limbaugh Republicans? Go for it!
- - Ing, May 9, 2008
I think if Hillary plays games re: being asked to join as VP - Sen. Obama should just ask Wes Clark. I'd be happy, at least :)
Question: if one is white, not college educated and not hard working, who does he or she support? ha-ha! Would the republicans claim that demo? According to Sen. Clinton they are only with her. I should stop now, I'm getting petty myself...
- - Fair, May 9, 2008
Hillary was giving a telephone interview to USA Today. Like someone said on MSNBC this morning, Hillary's pitch to the superdelegates was, let me keep campaigning to see what happens, I won't be bad, I won't try to tear down Obama - and then, like a half day later she comes out with the, he's weak with white people who are hard working, but I can get them, blah blah blah.
I just wish the superdelegates would respond by coming out for Obama en mass and shutting her down!
But Harold Ford still has a point - the most expeditious way of getting that white subset and women would be for Obama to put her on the ticket. What I've heard is that she wants to be ASKED out of RESPECT but would not necessarily want to help him out that way - because of her 2012 ambitions if McCain is elected. But if he asks her, she won't answer right away, to keep him hanging and unable to move on to a viable Veep candidate. UGH!
- - Ing, May 9, 2008
That's a bit petty, on the part of the Clinton campaign, to make that sort of statement over FOUR delegates [re first Ing, May 9, 2008 post]. I was just happy to see Michigan (and Florida) were going to be included in the process.
Unfortunately I missed the Kwame Kilpatrick edition of the Daily Show. I'm sure I'll catch a repeat or look in online. I like the Larry Craig piece too :)
Another "unfortunately" is that the Clinton campaign is playing the race card. I'm not sure to who Hillary was speaking, but there was a clip of her on a telephone conversation. I never had a problem with discussions about how various groups voted (women, "blue-collar whites", the elderly, college students etc...) but it was never, at least to me, in a negative way... until yesterday or the day before.
What's this I hear about Harold Ford, Jr. saying Obama should ask Sen. Clinton to join his ticket.
- - Fair, May 9, 2008
Hey - did you happen to catch the Tuesday, May 6 edition of the Daily Show? They totally skewered Kwame! They even had the R Kelly impersonator on - remember him from the Sen. Larry "Wide Stance" Craig public restroom scandal? I love that impersonator.
As expected, my $50 donation to the Obama campaign resulted in what will probably be an avalanche of additional e-mail - wanting more money, also, can I go down to KY and work door-to-door for the campaign? Hey, I was a Jehovah's Witness once, so I know how to do that door-to-door thing!
- - Ing, May 9, 2008
I just saw this for the first time at First Read, the MSNBC political blog. I love it - GOBAMA GOBAMA GOBAMA - hard to type tho, for some reason.
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
I've read a few good articles - Time online - to you get Time, paper? One thing that makes sense - beside retiring the debt - which I gather Obama can help her with, not sure how - is that she is now largely concerned with her historic position as first, serious, woman candidate and all those who support her passionately on that basis. She wants to find a way to go out that isn't with a whimper or that is scorched-earth against Obama - something that upholds her dignity and special-ness. She'll probably find a way not to be a laughing-stock, Huckabee!
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
I wonder if Sen. Clinton really knows she will not secure the nomination but is running her campaign to continue to get donations. I read she recently loaned her campaign $6.4million and I guess was $10million in debt from the beginning. Maybe this is all show to be able to accept donations to be able to pay off as much of the debt as possible. Perhaps the recent $6.4million loan was just to see if she could get Ind. and NC and now knows what is coming... I imagine it must be easier to obtain donation while still fighting instead of asking for money with a "suspended" campaign.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
Wow - you are correct! I had already read my favorite column/blog, by Howard Kurtz and was hurrying on to other sites. Glad you brought this to my attention - closing especially wonderful:
"Obama's rhetorical cotton candy lacks Reagan's ideological nourishment, but he is Reaganesque in two important senses: People like listening to him, and his manner lulls his adversaries into underestimating his sheer toughness -- the tempered steel beneath the sleek suits."
Okay - I will forgive cotton candy if George recognizes the tempered steel - tempered steel is always a GREAT analogy, not used lightly, esp. by such as George Will.
I also loved his caricature of her coming up with some bizarre metric for winning/going on and the comparison to how you win a World Series. . .
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
I enjoyed George Will's column today. I've been a frequent reader since your first mention of him.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
You have asked me this question - I have just donated $50 to the Obama campaign. They have some kind of matching thing going on - I didn't really understand it. Like, we will match you up with a grassroots supporter - do you have any message for that person? I wrote that I was glad that person could support the campaign in a way I could not, and that I had a political blog if they were interested, and copied in the link - I said they were probably WAY too busy to look at it. But who knows?
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
My feelings are that average voters (not DNC insiders or party leaders) should not get or feel shut out because of those at the top. I didn't think we should have done what we did, however, I also want my vote to count.
I'll have to catch up about the branding. What are the Obama and Clinton "brands"?
I'm laughing... I wasn't sure what you were writing about yesterday - the widget. I thought maybe you ordered some sort of retro furniture for your house :) I got it last night when I was on Blogger.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
What did you think of the widget? I was happy to see that it updated since yesterday - Hillary's chances are down from like 4.6% to 2.5%. I guess one should have known by her sticking by Bill, despite severe testing in their personal lives, that she is a masochist. She appears to be going for the "death by a thousand cuts" which is no compliment to her or her "brand." Been hearing a lot about Obama's "brand" lately - not really a fan of that nomenclature. . . .
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
One thing that I do agree with is the argument that regardless of the outcome yesterday in Indiana and NC, those states will be Red in November. We should stop making such a big deal about the remaining contests (except Oregon). Will SD, Ind., KY, or NC be Blue in November - probably not.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
RE: Happy, if not ecstatic
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/obama-memo-to-superdelegates/
Check out this actual memo from Obama's campaign.
- - Ing, May 7, 2008
I was just at some of the major news websites for a quick update.
I was not able find anything on Wes Clark, unfortunately. What I did find was a map drawn up by Karl Rove (!!!) that showed how McCain will win against Obama. It has Florida going for McCain (in a McCain v. Obama scenario) and Michigan, Ohio and possibly Wisc. as "toss-up" (McCain v. Obama). There wasn't anything on a Clinton v. McCain match-up.
- - Fair, May 7, 2008
Tonight, I will either be ecstatic, anxious, or despondent. Most likely, anxious.
- - Ing, May 6, 2008
- - Ing, May 9, 2008
I think if Hillary plays games re: being asked to join as VP - Sen. Obama should just ask Wes Clark. I'd be happy, at least :)
Question: if one is white, not college educated and not hard working, who does he or she support? ha-ha! Would the republicans claim that demo? According to Sen. Clinton they are only with her. I should stop now, I'm getting petty myself...
- - Fair, May 9, 2008
Hillary was giving a telephone interview to USA Today. Like someone said on MSNBC this morning, Hillary's pitch to the superdelegates was, let me keep campaigning to see what happens, I won't be bad, I won't try to tear down Obama - and then, like a half day later she comes out with the, he's weak with white people who are hard working, but I can get them, blah blah blah.
I just wish the superdelegates would respond by coming out for Obama en mass and shutting her down!
But Harold Ford still has a point - the most expeditious way of getting that white subset and women would be for Obama to put her on the ticket. What I've heard is that she wants to be ASKED out of RESPECT but would not necessarily want to help him out that way - because of her 2012 ambitions if McCain is elected. But if he asks her, she won't answer right away, to keep him hanging and unable to move on to a viable Veep candidate. UGH!
- - Ing, May 9, 2008
That's a bit petty, on the part of the Clinton campaign, to make that sort of statement over FOUR delegates [re first Ing, May 9, 2008 post]. I was just happy to see Michigan (and Florida) were going to be included in the process.
Unfortunately I missed the Kwame Kilpatrick edition of the Daily Show. I'm sure I'll catch a repeat or look in online. I like the Larry Craig piece too :)
Another "unfortunately" is that the Clinton campaign is playing the race card. I'm not sure to who Hillary was speaking, but there was a clip of her on a telephone conversation. I never had a problem with discussions about how various groups voted (women, "blue-collar whites", the elderly, college students etc...) but it was never, at least to me, in a negative way... until yesterday or the day before.
What's this I hear about Harold Ford, Jr. saying Obama should ask Sen. Clinton to join his ticket.
- - Fair, May 9, 2008
Hey - did you happen to catch the Tuesday, May 6 edition of the Daily Show? They totally skewered Kwame! They even had the R Kelly impersonator on - remember him from the Sen. Larry "Wide Stance" Craig public restroom scandal? I love that impersonator.
As expected, my $50 donation to the Obama campaign resulted in what will probably be an avalanche of additional e-mail - wanting more money, also, can I go down to KY and work door-to-door for the campaign? Hey, I was a Jehovah's Witness once, so I know how to do that door-to-door thing!
- - Ing, May 9, 2008
I just saw this for the first time at First Read, the MSNBC political blog. I love it - GOBAMA GOBAMA GOBAMA - hard to type tho, for some reason.
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
I've read a few good articles - Time online - to you get Time, paper? One thing that makes sense - beside retiring the debt - which I gather Obama can help her with, not sure how - is that she is now largely concerned with her historic position as first, serious, woman candidate and all those who support her passionately on that basis. She wants to find a way to go out that isn't with a whimper or that is scorched-earth against Obama - something that upholds her dignity and special-ness. She'll probably find a way not to be a laughing-stock, Huckabee!
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
I wonder if Sen. Clinton really knows she will not secure the nomination but is running her campaign to continue to get donations. I read she recently loaned her campaign $6.4million and I guess was $10million in debt from the beginning. Maybe this is all show to be able to accept donations to be able to pay off as much of the debt as possible. Perhaps the recent $6.4million loan was just to see if she could get Ind. and NC and now knows what is coming... I imagine it must be easier to obtain donation while still fighting instead of asking for money with a "suspended" campaign.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
Wow - you are correct! I had already read my favorite column/blog, by Howard Kurtz and was hurrying on to other sites. Glad you brought this to my attention - closing especially wonderful:
"Obama's rhetorical cotton candy lacks Reagan's ideological nourishment, but he is Reaganesque in two important senses: People like listening to him, and his manner lulls his adversaries into underestimating his sheer toughness -- the tempered steel beneath the sleek suits."
Okay - I will forgive cotton candy if George recognizes the tempered steel - tempered steel is always a GREAT analogy, not used lightly, esp. by such as George Will.
I also loved his caricature of her coming up with some bizarre metric for winning/going on and the comparison to how you win a World Series. . .
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
I enjoyed George Will's column today. I've been a frequent reader since your first mention of him.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
You have asked me this question - I have just donated $50 to the Obama campaign. They have some kind of matching thing going on - I didn't really understand it. Like, we will match you up with a grassroots supporter - do you have any message for that person? I wrote that I was glad that person could support the campaign in a way I could not, and that I had a political blog if they were interested, and copied in the link - I said they were probably WAY too busy to look at it. But who knows?
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
My feelings are that average voters (not DNC insiders or party leaders) should not get or feel shut out because of those at the top. I didn't think we should have done what we did, however, I also want my vote to count.
I'll have to catch up about the branding. What are the Obama and Clinton "brands"?
I'm laughing... I wasn't sure what you were writing about yesterday - the widget. I thought maybe you ordered some sort of retro furniture for your house :) I got it last night when I was on Blogger.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
What did you think of the widget? I was happy to see that it updated since yesterday - Hillary's chances are down from like 4.6% to 2.5%. I guess one should have known by her sticking by Bill, despite severe testing in their personal lives, that she is a masochist. She appears to be going for the "death by a thousand cuts" which is no compliment to her or her "brand." Been hearing a lot about Obama's "brand" lately - not really a fan of that nomenclature. . . .
- - Ing, May 8, 2008
One thing that I do agree with is the argument that regardless of the outcome yesterday in Indiana and NC, those states will be Red in November. We should stop making such a big deal about the remaining contests (except Oregon). Will SD, Ind., KY, or NC be Blue in November - probably not.
- - Fair, May 8, 2008
RE: Happy, if not ecstatic
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/obama-memo-to-superdelegates/
Check out this actual memo from Obama's campaign.
- - Ing, May 7, 2008
I was just at some of the major news websites for a quick update.
I was not able find anything on Wes Clark, unfortunately. What I did find was a map drawn up by Karl Rove (!!!) that showed how McCain will win against Obama. It has Florida going for McCain (in a McCain v. Obama scenario) and Michigan, Ohio and possibly Wisc. as "toss-up" (McCain v. Obama). There wasn't anything on a Clinton v. McCain match-up.
- - Fair, May 7, 2008
Tonight, I will either be ecstatic, anxious, or despondent. Most likely, anxious.
- - Ing, May 6, 2008
Hillary: Compromise on MI delegates okay EXCEPT
Nothing less than the 73 delegates "earned" will be accepted. Yesterday, the Clinton Campaign rejected the Michigan Democratic Party compromise: 69 delegates to Clinton and 59 to Obama. Based on the results of the "election" - where no major candidate's name remained on the ballot other than Clinton's - Hillary "earned" 73 delegates. Remember - the "election" was on January 15 and ever since Hillary has maintained - Michigan's voice must be heard, we can't win in November without Michigan! Numerous compromises have been floated since then - and Hillary has rejected them all because they don't give her the 73 delegates. So - is it about Michigan??? I think it's all about Hillary . . .
GOBAMA!
GOBAMA!
Thursday, May 8, 2008
Sounds like Huckabee
Yesterday, Hillary said, I will stay in the race until there is a nominee! Ring a bell? That's what Huckabee said, when it was clear McCain would be the nominee, Huckabee had no chance, but McCain had still not reached the magic number in the Republican process. And didn't Huckabee become a joke? Is that what Hillary wants?
I disagree a bit with you, Fair, about seating Michigan and Florida. No matter how stupid the DNC rules seem now, in retrospect, they are the rules that everyone agreed to - including Hillary - and Michigan - and Florida. I'm not expert in the DNC rules-making process, but there must have been a better avenue for Michigan and Florida, besides jumping ahead "in the line" without sanction from the party. Yes, the first-in-the-nation status of Iowa and NH could be reviewed - the DNC added Nevada and SC for that reason - but, like it or not, the Democratic party is the party of PROCESS, and FAIRNESS, and CONSENSUS - unlike that OTHER party.
I also don't think that if the DNC sticks to their guns - if they seat Michigan and Florida, but penalize them, say, by cutting their delegate value in half - that that will send those states totally over to McCain. If MI and FL go to McCain, it will probably be for other reasons - Obama's stance on fuel efficiency in Michigan, and his "perceived" lack of support for Israel in both states. But as I've said before, Obama has another path, with non-traditional blue states, as a means to the White House.
I disagree a bit with you, Fair, about seating Michigan and Florida. No matter how stupid the DNC rules seem now, in retrospect, they are the rules that everyone agreed to - including Hillary - and Michigan - and Florida. I'm not expert in the DNC rules-making process, but there must have been a better avenue for Michigan and Florida, besides jumping ahead "in the line" without sanction from the party. Yes, the first-in-the-nation status of Iowa and NH could be reviewed - the DNC added Nevada and SC for that reason - but, like it or not, the Democratic party is the party of PROCESS, and FAIRNESS, and CONSENSUS - unlike that OTHER party.
I also don't think that if the DNC sticks to their guns - if they seat Michigan and Florida, but penalize them, say, by cutting their delegate value in half - that that will send those states totally over to McCain. If MI and FL go to McCain, it will probably be for other reasons - Obama's stance on fuel efficiency in Michigan, and his "perceived" lack of support for Israel in both states. But as I've said before, Obama has another path, with non-traditional blue states, as a means to the White House.
Wednesday, May 7, 2008
<- Michigan counts <-
I guess the proposed settlement announced in today's online Detroit Free Press (www.Freep.com, 05-07-08) from what I'll call the Michigan four, Sen. Levin, US Rep. Kilpatrick, Debbie Dingell, and Ron Gettelfinger is a workable solution to the issue of having Michigan's voice heard at the Democratic convention in Denver.
"We" broke the rules, but it is important to count Mich., and Florida - - not for the sake of the party (or for Sen. Clinton to be able to claim the most votes among those who voted... whatever that means), but to ensure that voters of each state are not left out of the process. Why is it my fault - or yours - that Mich. Democrat party leaders decided to go against party rules and advance the primary? I was not consulted; were you?
I realize Sen. Clinton was the only leading candidate on the ballot, but I think it is foolish to believe that any candidate can win the White House come November without at least one of the two (realistically both) rule-breaking states. Let's not give McCain and the republicans any more issues to use against our candidate - whoever he or she may be ;)
Is it fair that Iowa and New Hampshire always kick off primary season? I don't think so. Mich. did learn a lesson... if the primary were not advanced, the state may have played an even greater role in the Dem. primary because of how this endless contest has unfolded.
What a ride so far folks! What matters most is that we coast safely in to the station... Final stop: Denver.
Happy, if not ecstatic
I would have been ecstatic if Obama had won both North Carolina and Indiana. What he did was a good, second best: Huge win in North Caroline - 14 pts - and very close loss in Indiana - 4 pts, or around 25,000 votes or so. It could all be over very soon if enough superdelegates come out for him . . . but things may keep going on if Hillary keeps getting money, and/or if superdelegates don't talk her out of it - until May 20 or May 31. But, as the analysts say: if she has no reasonable - and honorable - path to the nomination, why stay in, to keep bashing Obama?
Your suggestion of Wesley Clark for Obama's veep was suggested by one of the pundits. Hillary, too, but that's problematic (Bill) and doesn't necessarily address Obama's specific gaps with the electorate.
Your suggestion of Wesley Clark for Obama's veep was suggested by one of the pundits. Hillary, too, but that's problematic (Bill) and doesn't necessarily address Obama's specific gaps with the electorate.
Monday, May 5, 2008
April 29 - May 5 exchanges
Actually, it may have been a national poll on the proposed gas tax holiday, so that does not necessarily help out Obama. I don't really know the appearance schedules for the candidates - I just heard it stated with awe and wonder that Bill would have that many appearances today. The Clintons really want to make N.C. competitive. Of course, my worse nightmare is that Obama would lose both IN and NC. I think I would be so upset I wouldn't even be able to come into work on Wednesday. No matter how I've tryed, I can't stop taking all this so personally.
Wright has not shown up in any public venue I've heard of - but of course Obama is asked about him all the time. Despite heavy criticism - what did Wright say on Monday that was so different then he said previously? - I thought Obama answered this well - Wright had a chance to put his remarks in context and he had a chance to not be divisive - instead he was totally the opposite. Makes perfect sense to me, but then, I am so prejudiced in Obama's favor, I don't think I can objectively tell what is reasonable any more. If he says it, it's reasonable!
- - Ing, May 5, 2008
Interesting how former President Clinton is now running around rural parts of N.C. At the start of the campaign he was in urban areas while nothing was done in rural areas. How many appearances are scheduled for Hillary Clinton and Obama in Indiana?
With whom is Obama getting traction with on calling out Sens. Clinton and McCain on the fuel tax pandering? People who already voted/would support Obama, uncommitted superdelegates, or with anyone that has yet to vote?
- - Fair, May 5, 2008
I thought Obama did will in the various media interviews I saw over the weekend. This morning I heard Cokie Roberts on NPR say that he was getting some traction out of accusing Hillary of pandering on the federal gas tax holiday, so-called. But Bill is out there in North Carolina all day today, with NINE appearances in the rural parts. So much for Obama being able to to put all his efforts into Indiana.
But really, why should people decide who to vote for, based on the candidate visiting their town or state? What difference does it make, once the person is elected? Wow - candidate A came to my town for 15 minutes! So they will be the best president for me! Ridiculous.
- - Ing, May 5, 2008
Here's reinforcement for your Obama/Bayh ticket proposal. - - Ing, May 1, 2008
[begin quote]
May 1, 2008
Major Clinton backer switches to Obama
Posted: 10:35 AM ET
(CNN) — Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Joe Andrew — who was appointed to that post in 1999 by then-President Clinton — is withdrawing his endorsement of Hillary Clinton, and backing Barack Obama instead.
Andrew, who made a Thursday morning appearance at Obama's state headquarters in Indianapolis, said the time had come to "heal the rift in this party and unite behind Barack Obama now."
On a conference call with reporters and Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, Andrew said superdelegates need to make their decisions "now." He added that he'd like to see Obama pick Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh — a strong Clinton backer who has said the Jeremiah Wright controversy would pose general election problems for the Illinois senator — as his running mate.
"I'm going to be an advocate for an Obama/Bayh ticket," he said. Andrew will be doing local media interviews Thursday, and appearing at campaign events Friday.
Andrew released a letter Thursday morning explaining his decision. "Many will ask, why now? Why, with several primaries still remaining, with Senator Clinton just winning Pennsylvania, with my friend Evan Bayh working hard to make sure Senator Clinton wins Indiana, why switch now? Why call for super delegates to come together now to constructively pick a president?"
"The simple answer is that while the timing is hard for me personally, it is best for America. We simply cannot wait any longer, nor can we let this race fall any lower and still hope to win in November. June or July may be too late. The time to act is now."
The Indiana superdelegate served as party chairman from 1999 through 2001. He had endorsed Hillary Clinton last year, on the day she officially announced her White House bid.
With the switch, Clinton's lead over Obama among the party's superdelegates stands at 19.
Indiana voters head to the polls on Tuesday.
In response to Andrew, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said, "We have seen record turnout in state after state because Democrats are excited and enthusiastic about this primary process."
"On Tuesday, Hoosiers will have their turn to come out in record numbers and support their candidate. We support that Democratic process and think that every American should be able to weigh in and support the candidate of his or her own choosing."
[end quote]
I've also heard that the windfall profits tax would be very hard to pass and implement - it's been done before - decades ago? - and the results were not as expected. But it sure sounds good to Joe and Jo-ann blue collar voter, doesn't it?
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
Her fuel tax holiday included a provision to replace the lost revenue with a windfall profits tax on Big Oil. You're right - without addressing supply and causing increased demand would render the entire charade a waste of time. Props to Obama. McCain's was the one that left the trust fund in the hole recklessly.
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
So Hillary went to a gas station in Indiana - did she change a car's oil? ;->
No, I know, she talked about the stupid gas tax holiday. Economists have thoroughly pooh-poohed the idea. Dropping the price slightly at the height of the driving season would cause drivers to drive more, but supply would not rise, so the price would rise, consumers would be worse off, the Highway Trust Fund would lose billions - POOF - stupid pandering on both her and McCain's parts.
Some are saying - I tend to agree - that Wright did Obama a favor for being so egomaniacal and so unable to resist - IT'S ALL ABOUT ME-ism - and so unable to stop repeating his most radical beliefs. It gave Obama perfect cover to totally break from someone that he said a few weeks ago, "he could no more disown then disown the black community or his white grandmother." I'm feeling good - I think Obama will get out this - scathed (as opposed to unscathed), but still on top after next Tuesday, and still looking good enough to the supers.
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
I'm not sure if it matters if it was too late for Obama to respond. It is still being discussed in the news - overshadowing Hillary's trip to an Indiana gas station (which I only read about by accident). I think McCain will "hold fire" for a while - at least until a debate. However, the republican party in general and/or other political groups will be all over the Rev. Wright story non-stop. That's my feeling.
I'm not sure what to expect from Hillary, actually. She could alienate about half the dems if she does bring up the topic or, for her sake, hope the media and republicans keep fanning the flames without her help (which is what appears to be happening).
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
I'm hopeful, of course, that Obama's press conference yesterday afternoon in Salem, North Carolina, will lay to rest how much the Rev. Wright's words and views should be mashed onto Obama - not at all, anymore! But in a few scans of commentary and reporting, online and on cable, there is hedging. Did he do enough? Some say yes, others are not sure. Was it too late? More say yes, but some say it was timely enough. Impact on Indiana and N.C. primaries in less than a week? Hard to say, but the pundits expect there will definitely be an impact. As of this moment, Hillary and McCain both seem to be holding their fire, but I don't think that will last - especially not on Hillary's part.
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
I haven't read up on the exact legal mechanism for the governor to use - I've just read that there is such a mechanism. I wonder how hard it is. After the budget fiasco last fall, I don't think Jennifer has much stomach for something hard, esp. if it is not absolutely required. And who knows how much stomach she has at all, after her emergency surgery (yesterday? this morning?) - oops - was that mean?
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
I think it would "impress" old-school suburban voters. Based on history in this election my guess is that Obama will clean up in Detroit. Maybe she would hope this would be the headline:
"Clinton-supporter removes embattled mayor from office; 'We need to move on' claims gov.'"
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
Granholm is a lame duck now, for Michigan. I'm sure, no matter what she says, she would leave "us" to join a Clinton Administration if asked. Maybe taking out Kwame would impress Hillary. . .
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
About Mayor Kilpatrick and Christine Beatty's text messages... WOW! This recent set released got somewhat personal, at least for Councilwoman Cockerel, Sharon McPhail and the members/former members of DPD. Kilpatrick's sister texting how the City is full of idiot's ... what was she thinking. Honestly?
If Granholm chooses not to get any more involved I think nothing will change.
If Granholm chooses to act and remove the mayor from office - it will be good for her among suburban residents; not sure what think about what affect it would have to her popularity in Detroit - I'm not too sure the mayor (and now his sister) are too popular, but, again, I don't know.
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
Now we're cooking with gas! Obama is doing everything the morning pundits said he needed to do - the Rev. Wright of yesterday is not the Rev. Wright I met 20 years ago. Our relationship may be damaged irreparably, perhaps unintentional on Wright's part, but nonetheless damaged. Rev. Wright does not accurately reflect the black church in America -
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/29/obama.wright/index.html
Just because Obama said these things at this time doesn't mean only political expediency - it will look like that to some. But it's like the saying, sometimes someone really is watching you (and it isn't just paranoia).
Be sure and check out the Freep when you can - breaking news about text message releases in the Kwame case.
- - Ing, April 29, 2008
I read several news and opinion pieces about Wright over lunch. Maybe one out of 20 pundits had anything good to say about Wright. Since I strongly desire to be optimistic about Obama, all I can hope for is that 1) better to come out now than close to the general election; 2) maybe Obama will finally "throw his pastor under the bus," given recent statements by Wright; and 3) maybe what doesn't "kill" Obama "will make him stronger." If he can find a way, away from Wright, that calms whites and does not alienate blacks, then perhaps he can contain and diminish the damage. Seems a tall order, though . . .
- - Ing, April 29, 2008
I was unaware of Rev. Wright's actions over the past two days and only became aware of what he was doing while watching TV. I can't even begin to think of the hurt from this. While Obama has done NOTHING wrong; he will no doubt bear the brunt of any negative reaction - either now in the primary or in several months against John McCain.
I think he may loose his "down ticket" (and super delegate) support - I read how the republicans are running ads in the south against Dem. House candidates comparing the subject candidate, Obama AND Wright to "conservative 'American' values" offered by the republican candidates (the same values of Larry Craig??).
I hope this does not derail Obama's campaign. Sad if this is the launch for Hillary.
- - Fair, April 29, 2008
Wright has not shown up in any public venue I've heard of - but of course Obama is asked about him all the time. Despite heavy criticism - what did Wright say on Monday that was so different then he said previously? - I thought Obama answered this well - Wright had a chance to put his remarks in context and he had a chance to not be divisive - instead he was totally the opposite. Makes perfect sense to me, but then, I am so prejudiced in Obama's favor, I don't think I can objectively tell what is reasonable any more. If he says it, it's reasonable!
- - Ing, May 5, 2008
Interesting how former President Clinton is now running around rural parts of N.C. At the start of the campaign he was in urban areas while nothing was done in rural areas. How many appearances are scheduled for Hillary Clinton and Obama in Indiana?
With whom is Obama getting traction with on calling out Sens. Clinton and McCain on the fuel tax pandering? People who already voted/would support Obama, uncommitted superdelegates, or with anyone that has yet to vote?
- - Fair, May 5, 2008
I thought Obama did will in the various media interviews I saw over the weekend. This morning I heard Cokie Roberts on NPR say that he was getting some traction out of accusing Hillary of pandering on the federal gas tax holiday, so-called. But Bill is out there in North Carolina all day today, with NINE appearances in the rural parts. So much for Obama being able to to put all his efforts into Indiana.
But really, why should people decide who to vote for, based on the candidate visiting their town or state? What difference does it make, once the person is elected? Wow - candidate A came to my town for 15 minutes! So they will be the best president for me! Ridiculous.
- - Ing, May 5, 2008
Here's reinforcement for your Obama/Bayh ticket proposal. - - Ing, May 1, 2008
[begin quote]
May 1, 2008
Major Clinton backer switches to Obama
Posted: 10:35 AM ET
(CNN) — Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Joe Andrew — who was appointed to that post in 1999 by then-President Clinton — is withdrawing his endorsement of Hillary Clinton, and backing Barack Obama instead.
Andrew, who made a Thursday morning appearance at Obama's state headquarters in Indianapolis, said the time had come to "heal the rift in this party and unite behind Barack Obama now."
On a conference call with reporters and Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, Andrew said superdelegates need to make their decisions "now." He added that he'd like to see Obama pick Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh — a strong Clinton backer who has said the Jeremiah Wright controversy would pose general election problems for the Illinois senator — as his running mate.
"I'm going to be an advocate for an Obama/Bayh ticket," he said. Andrew will be doing local media interviews Thursday, and appearing at campaign events Friday.
Andrew released a letter Thursday morning explaining his decision. "Many will ask, why now? Why, with several primaries still remaining, with Senator Clinton just winning Pennsylvania, with my friend Evan Bayh working hard to make sure Senator Clinton wins Indiana, why switch now? Why call for super delegates to come together now to constructively pick a president?"
"The simple answer is that while the timing is hard for me personally, it is best for America. We simply cannot wait any longer, nor can we let this race fall any lower and still hope to win in November. June or July may be too late. The time to act is now."
The Indiana superdelegate served as party chairman from 1999 through 2001. He had endorsed Hillary Clinton last year, on the day she officially announced her White House bid.
With the switch, Clinton's lead over Obama among the party's superdelegates stands at 19.
Indiana voters head to the polls on Tuesday.
In response to Andrew, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said, "We have seen record turnout in state after state because Democrats are excited and enthusiastic about this primary process."
"On Tuesday, Hoosiers will have their turn to come out in record numbers and support their candidate. We support that Democratic process and think that every American should be able to weigh in and support the candidate of his or her own choosing."
[end quote]
I've also heard that the windfall profits tax would be very hard to pass and implement - it's been done before - decades ago? - and the results were not as expected. But it sure sounds good to Joe and Jo-ann blue collar voter, doesn't it?
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
Her fuel tax holiday included a provision to replace the lost revenue with a windfall profits tax on Big Oil. You're right - without addressing supply and causing increased demand would render the entire charade a waste of time. Props to Obama. McCain's was the one that left the trust fund in the hole recklessly.
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
So Hillary went to a gas station in Indiana - did she change a car's oil? ;->
No, I know, she talked about the stupid gas tax holiday. Economists have thoroughly pooh-poohed the idea. Dropping the price slightly at the height of the driving season would cause drivers to drive more, but supply would not rise, so the price would rise, consumers would be worse off, the Highway Trust Fund would lose billions - POOF - stupid pandering on both her and McCain's parts.
Some are saying - I tend to agree - that Wright did Obama a favor for being so egomaniacal and so unable to resist - IT'S ALL ABOUT ME-ism - and so unable to stop repeating his most radical beliefs. It gave Obama perfect cover to totally break from someone that he said a few weeks ago, "he could no more disown then disown the black community or his white grandmother." I'm feeling good - I think Obama will get out this - scathed (as opposed to unscathed), but still on top after next Tuesday, and still looking good enough to the supers.
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
I'm not sure if it matters if it was too late for Obama to respond. It is still being discussed in the news - overshadowing Hillary's trip to an Indiana gas station (which I only read about by accident). I think McCain will "hold fire" for a while - at least until a debate. However, the republican party in general and/or other political groups will be all over the Rev. Wright story non-stop. That's my feeling.
I'm not sure what to expect from Hillary, actually. She could alienate about half the dems if she does bring up the topic or, for her sake, hope the media and republicans keep fanning the flames without her help (which is what appears to be happening).
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
I'm hopeful, of course, that Obama's press conference yesterday afternoon in Salem, North Carolina, will lay to rest how much the Rev. Wright's words and views should be mashed onto Obama - not at all, anymore! But in a few scans of commentary and reporting, online and on cable, there is hedging. Did he do enough? Some say yes, others are not sure. Was it too late? More say yes, but some say it was timely enough. Impact on Indiana and N.C. primaries in less than a week? Hard to say, but the pundits expect there will definitely be an impact. As of this moment, Hillary and McCain both seem to be holding their fire, but I don't think that will last - especially not on Hillary's part.
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
I haven't read up on the exact legal mechanism for the governor to use - I've just read that there is such a mechanism. I wonder how hard it is. After the budget fiasco last fall, I don't think Jennifer has much stomach for something hard, esp. if it is not absolutely required. And who knows how much stomach she has at all, after her emergency surgery (yesterday? this morning?) - oops - was that mean?
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
I think it would "impress" old-school suburban voters. Based on history in this election my guess is that Obama will clean up in Detroit. Maybe she would hope this would be the headline:
"Clinton-supporter removes embattled mayor from office; 'We need to move on' claims gov.'"
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
Granholm is a lame duck now, for Michigan. I'm sure, no matter what she says, she would leave "us" to join a Clinton Administration if asked. Maybe taking out Kwame would impress Hillary. . .
- - Ing, April 30, 2008
About Mayor Kilpatrick and Christine Beatty's text messages... WOW! This recent set released got somewhat personal, at least for Councilwoman Cockerel, Sharon McPhail and the members/former members of DPD. Kilpatrick's sister texting how the City is full of idiot's ... what was she thinking. Honestly?
If Granholm chooses not to get any more involved I think nothing will change.
If Granholm chooses to act and remove the mayor from office - it will be good for her among suburban residents; not sure what think about what affect it would have to her popularity in Detroit - I'm not too sure the mayor (and now his sister) are too popular, but, again, I don't know.
- - Fair, April 30, 2008
Now we're cooking with gas! Obama is doing everything the morning pundits said he needed to do - the Rev. Wright of yesterday is not the Rev. Wright I met 20 years ago. Our relationship may be damaged irreparably, perhaps unintentional on Wright's part, but nonetheless damaged. Rev. Wright does not accurately reflect the black church in America -
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/29/obama.wright/index.html
Just because Obama said these things at this time doesn't mean only political expediency - it will look like that to some. But it's like the saying, sometimes someone really is watching you (and it isn't just paranoia).
Be sure and check out the Freep when you can - breaking news about text message releases in the Kwame case.
- - Ing, April 29, 2008
I read several news and opinion pieces about Wright over lunch. Maybe one out of 20 pundits had anything good to say about Wright. Since I strongly desire to be optimistic about Obama, all I can hope for is that 1) better to come out now than close to the general election; 2) maybe Obama will finally "throw his pastor under the bus," given recent statements by Wright; and 3) maybe what doesn't "kill" Obama "will make him stronger." If he can find a way, away from Wright, that calms whites and does not alienate blacks, then perhaps he can contain and diminish the damage. Seems a tall order, though . . .
- - Ing, April 29, 2008
I was unaware of Rev. Wright's actions over the past two days and only became aware of what he was doing while watching TV. I can't even begin to think of the hurt from this. While Obama has done NOTHING wrong; he will no doubt bear the brunt of any negative reaction - either now in the primary or in several months against John McCain.
I think he may loose his "down ticket" (and super delegate) support - I read how the republicans are running ads in the south against Dem. House candidates comparing the subject candidate, Obama AND Wright to "conservative 'American' values" offered by the republican candidates (the same values of Larry Craig??).
I hope this does not derail Obama's campaign. Sad if this is the launch for Hillary.
- - Fair, April 29, 2008
Sunday, May 4, 2008
Yeah! Barack won Guam!
Well, it would have been nice if he had won by more than 7 votes and picked up something other than an even split of 4 delegates with Hillary.
I thought Obama did well this morning on Meet the Press, but I can't compare to Hillary's performance on This Week with George Stepha. . . (sp) - even though I TiVo-ed that show as usual, I couldn't bear to watch it. I heard that she did quite a blind-side to George, bringing up that in his previous life - in the Clinton Whitehouse - both he and she had been against NAFTA. I guess it wasn't considered tactful of her to pierce the journalistic objectivity he has tried to cultivate since leaving Bill's employ. Anyway, here's hoping Obama wins North Carolina and only loses Indiana by a little bit. If he ultimately loses the nomination, it will be ALL Rev. Wright's FAULT!
I thought Obama did well this morning on Meet the Press, but I can't compare to Hillary's performance on This Week with George Stepha. . . (sp) - even though I TiVo-ed that show as usual, I couldn't bear to watch it. I heard that she did quite a blind-side to George, bringing up that in his previous life - in the Clinton Whitehouse - both he and she had been against NAFTA. I guess it wasn't considered tactful of her to pierce the journalistic objectivity he has tried to cultivate since leaving Bill's employ. Anyway, here's hoping Obama wins North Carolina and only loses Indiana by a little bit. If he ultimately loses the nomination, it will be ALL Rev. Wright's FAULT!
Thursday, May 1, 2008
Barack on Bob and Tom!
I heard most of the Bob and Tom interview with Barack this morning. I guess they taped an interview with Hillary yesterday and taped Obama's last night. They're still trying to get McCain on. So they're being even-handed. I thought Obama had the right tone with Indianapolis's funny radio guys - a bit of seriousness, but also joking about basketball - he was "23" before there was a "23" - the car he learned to drive on - a Ford Granada - "made out of tin-foil" - stuff like that. Plus, I say again - how wonderful it would be to have a President who could speak and one would want to listen to him! Barack has a great radio voice . . .
Apparently Senator McCaskill (Missouri) has inside information that all of the congressional undecided superdelegates actually have decided and she - an Obama supporter - is not unhappy! So those are good tidings . . .
Apparently Senator McCaskill (Missouri) has inside information that all of the congressional undecided superdelegates actually have decided and she - an Obama supporter - is not unhappy! So those are good tidings . . .
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