May 6 - May 9 exchanges

You're right about that demographic - Rush Limbaugh Republicans? Go for it!

- - Ing, May 9, 2008


I think if Hillary plays games re: being asked to join as VP - Sen. Obama should just ask Wes Clark. I'd be happy, at least :)

Question: if one is white, not college educated and not hard working, who does he or she support? ha-ha! Would the republicans claim that demo? According to Sen. Clinton they are only with her. I should stop now, I'm getting petty myself...

- - Fair, May 9, 2008


Hillary was giving a telephone interview to USA Today. Like someone said on MSNBC this morning, Hillary's pitch to the superdelegates was, let me keep campaigning to see what happens, I won't be bad, I won't try to tear down Obama - and then, like a half day later she comes out with the, he's weak with white people who are hard working, but I can get them, blah blah blah.

I just wish the superdelegates would respond by coming out for Obama en mass and shutting her down!

But Harold Ford still has a point - the most expeditious way of getting that white subset and women would be for Obama to put her on the ticket. What I've heard is that she wants to be ASKED out of RESPECT but would not necessarily want to help him out that way - because of her 2012 ambitions if McCain is elected. But if he asks her, she won't answer right away, to keep him hanging and unable to move on to a viable Veep candidate. UGH!

- - Ing, May 9, 2008


That's a bit petty, on the part of the Clinton campaign, to make that sort of statement over FOUR delegates [re first Ing, May 9, 2008 post]. I was just happy to see Michigan (and Florida) were going to be included in the process.

Unfortunately I missed the Kwame Kilpatrick edition of the Daily Show. I'm sure I'll catch a repeat or look in online. I like the Larry Craig piece too :)

Another "unfortunately" is that the Clinton campaign is playing the race card. I'm not sure to who Hillary was speaking, but there was a clip of her on a telephone conversation. I never had a problem with discussions about how various groups voted (women, "blue-collar whites", the elderly, college students etc...) but it was never, at least to me, in a negative way... until yesterday or the day before.

What's this I hear about Harold Ford, Jr. saying Obama should ask Sen. Clinton to join his ticket.

- - Fair, May 9, 2008


Hey - did you happen to catch the Tuesday, May 6 edition of the Daily Show? They totally skewered Kwame! They even had the R Kelly impersonator on - remember him from the Sen. Larry "Wide Stance" Craig public restroom scandal? I love that impersonator.

As expected, my $50 donation to the Obama campaign resulted in what will probably be an avalanche of additional e-mail - wanting more money, also, can I go down to KY and work door-to-door for the campaign? Hey, I was a Jehovah's Witness once, so I know how to do that door-to-door thing!

- - Ing, May 9, 2008


I just saw this for the first time at First Read, the MSNBC political blog. I love it - GOBAMA GOBAMA GOBAMA - hard to type tho, for some reason.

- - Ing, May 8, 2008


I've read a few good articles - Time online - to you get Time, paper? One thing that makes sense - beside retiring the debt - which I gather Obama can help her with, not sure how - is that she is now largely concerned with her historic position as first, serious, woman candidate and all those who support her passionately on that basis. She wants to find a way to go out that isn't with a whimper or that is scorched-earth against Obama - something that upholds her dignity and special-ness. She'll probably find a way not to be a laughing-stock, Huckabee!

- - Ing, May 8, 2008


I wonder if Sen. Clinton really knows she will not secure the nomination but is running her campaign to continue to get donations. I read she recently loaned her campaign $6.4million and I guess was $10million in debt from the beginning. Maybe this is all show to be able to accept donations to be able to pay off as much of the debt as possible. Perhaps the recent $6.4million loan was just to see if she could get Ind. and NC and now knows what is coming... I imagine it must be easier to obtain donation while still fighting instead of asking for money with a "suspended" campaign.

- - Fair, May 8, 2008


Wow - you are correct! I had already read my favorite column/blog, by Howard Kurtz and was hurrying on to other sites. Glad you brought this to my attention - closing especially wonderful:

"Obama's rhetorical cotton candy lacks Reagan's ideological nourishment, but he is Reaganesque in two important senses: People like listening to him, and his manner lulls his adversaries into underestimating his sheer toughness -- the tempered steel beneath the sleek suits."

Okay - I will forgive cotton candy if George recognizes the tempered steel - tempered steel is always a GREAT analogy, not used lightly, esp. by such as George Will.

I also loved his caricature of her coming up with some bizarre metric for winning/going on and the comparison to how you win a World Series. . .

- - Ing, May 8, 2008


I enjoyed George Will's column today. I've been a frequent reader since your first mention of him.

- - Fair, May 8, 2008


You have asked me this question - I have just donated $50 to the Obama campaign. They have some kind of matching thing going on - I didn't really understand it. Like, we will match you up with a grassroots supporter - do you have any message for that person? I wrote that I was glad that person could support the campaign in a way I could not, and that I had a political blog if they were interested, and copied in the link - I said they were probably WAY too busy to look at it. But who knows?

- - Ing, May 8, 2008


My feelings are that average voters (not DNC insiders or party leaders) should not get or feel shut out because of those at the top. I didn't think we should have done what we did, however, I also want my vote to count.

I'll have to catch up about the branding. What are the Obama and Clinton "brands"?

I'm laughing... I wasn't sure what you were writing about yesterday - the widget. I thought maybe you ordered some sort of retro furniture for your house :) I got it last night when I was on Blogger.

- - Fair, May 8, 2008


What did you think of the widget? I was happy to see that it updated since yesterday - Hillary's chances are down from like 4.6% to 2.5%. I guess one should have known by her sticking by Bill, despite severe testing in their personal lives, that she is a masochist. She appears to be going for the "death by a thousand cuts" which is no compliment to her or her "brand." Been hearing a lot about Obama's "brand" lately - not really a fan of that nomenclature. . . .

- - Ing, May 8, 2008


One thing that I do agree with is the argument that regardless of the outcome yesterday in Indiana and NC, those states will be Red in November. We should stop making such a big deal about the remaining contests (except Oregon). Will SD, Ind., KY, or NC be Blue in November - probably not.

- - Fair, May 8, 2008


RE: Happy, if not ecstatic
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/obama-memo-to-superdelegates/

Check out this actual memo from Obama's campaign.

- - Ing, May 7, 2008


I was just at some of the major news websites for a quick update.

I was not able find anything on Wes Clark, unfortunately. What I did find was a map drawn up by Karl Rove (!!!) that showed how McCain will win against Obama. It has Florida going for McCain (in a McCain v. Obama scenario) and Michigan, Ohio and possibly Wisc. as "toss-up" (McCain v. Obama). There wasn't anything on a Clinton v. McCain match-up.

- - Fair, May 7, 2008


Tonight, I will either be ecstatic, anxious, or despondent. Most likely, anxious.

- - Ing, May 6, 2008